Which mainstream cartridge to go obsolete because of the 6 & 6.5 CM

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  1. 243 Win

    21 vote(s)
    12.1%
  2. 30-30 Win

    5 vote(s)
    2.9%
  3. 270 Win

    16 vote(s)
    9.2%
  4. 308 Win

    6 vote(s)
    3.5%
  5. 30-06 Sprg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. none/other

    125 vote(s)
    72.3%
  1. DENWA

    DENWA Well-Known Member

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    didn't add cartridges that aren't offered at your average store
     
  2. bocajnala

    bocajnala Well-Known Member

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    I don't think any of them will go obsolete. But I do think .243 rifle and ammo sales will be effected the most.

    In my area the .243 is often viewed as a starter rifle for youth. Who then eventually move up to an '06, .270, 300win, etc. (Even though the .243 if a perfectly acceptable option as a primary deer Slayer)

    I think the 6.5 Creed fills the gap of starter rifle and 'grown up' rifle. Just buy that to start with instead of buying something then upgrading to something else later.

    -Jake
     
  3. manitou

    manitou Well-Known Member

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    Red Ryder B-B guns will suffer.
     
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  4. gohring3006

    gohring3006 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    .260
    .243
    7-08
    All will/has been affected.
     
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  5. just country

    just country Well-Known Member

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    morning, NONE, just another creedmore fad.
    myself liked the 7WSM.the author of the cartridge
    killed this cartridge.
    justme gbot tum.
     
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  6. Greyfox

    Greyfox Well-Known Member

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    With the cartridges shown in the Poll...None.... while sales volumes may be effected, there are too many of them accumulated in the market to become obsolete. The Winchester 94 30-30, alone is estimated to have +5 million in circulation....add all the rest of the cartridges which have been popular for decades, and for many....still get the job done.
     
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  7. Creedmoor shooter

    Creedmoor shooter Well-Known Member

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    They wont go obsolete. They're are too many of those cartridges out there. Sales of them will be affected, but they wont go obsolete. The only cartridge I think is affected the most by the creed is the 260 rem. It was on it's way out anyway, but the creed has really hurt any chance of regrowth for the 260.
     
  8. Bigeclipse

    Bigeclipse Well-Known Member

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    I personally think the 270 is slowly becoming obsolete. As a new shooter myself, no one in my shooting group is a proponent of the 270. Yes the 270 is a great round but there is very little heavy for caliber bullets. In my opinion new shooters/hunters either buy a 308, 3006, or they want the new hotness caliber such as a 6.5CM or 6.5PRC.
     
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  9. Bigeclipse

    Bigeclipse Well-Known Member

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    6.5CM is not really a fad anymore. Too many bench rest shooters and the military adopted it. Every gun manufacturer makes a 6.5CM and not just one but many different versions of rifles in 6.5CM. It is also quickly becoming THE deer caliber. Just my two cents.
     
  10. antelopedundee

    antelopedundee Well-Known Member

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    What's the likelihood that a .257 Creed will emerge?
     
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  11. 300whisper

    300whisper Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    .270 win because its already obsolete ;)
     
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  12. Creedmoor shooter

    Creedmoor shooter Well-Known Member

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    It already has as a wild cat. The likelyhood of it being a commercial offering is unlikely with the 6.5 and 6mm creeds already having a good foot hold in the commercial side.
     
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  13. Andrew Massi

    Andrew Massi Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    Zero
    6mm creed was driven by prs
    Not enough high bc quarter bore bullets to justify its use in prs.
    I believe 22 creed will be the next saami cartridge if another wildcat goes on the shelf.
     
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  14. Jud96

    Jud96 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think older cartridges will completely disappear, but I can see where the 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor will take a portion of the market. Both are modern designs and were designed from the ground up for heavy for caliber bullets. I think for the average guy they won’t be able to tell the difference or see the point in the newer cartridges. I do think they’re more versatile because of the fact that the SAAMI twist rates and OALs are designed around modern projectiles and optimizing the short action.