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I’ll agree to a minimum,….but I still think that with current technology, research, & the advanced sub-compact platforms out there that the 380 auto is irrelevant. This day and age though, they’re probably keeping “micro-pistols” chambered in 380 rather than 9mm to prevent someone chambering a 9mm+P
Some good thoughts here, especially about us, "Old Folks" I am definitely old,
but that is not so bad providing one took care of oneself along the way. What some do not seem to understand is that human shoulders are not designed to absorb recoil. Thus the first time one shoots a rifle it begins a long journey to shoulder issues. The more you subject the shoulder to recoil the more that is gets damaged, a little here, a little there. For me the 30-06 in a bolt action rifle was beginning to be somewhat uncomfortable many years ago, while a M1 chambered in 30-06 was not an issue. Much to be said about the ability of a semi automatic action to attenuate recoil. Over my military career I shot over 100,000 rounds through an M14 in both training and competition. My Winchester Model 70 had more recoil than the M14 simply because of the weight difference and the recoil absorbing of the semi automatic action. While the Model 70 wasn't all that uncomfortable there was a big difference in the felt recoil between the two rifles. Early in my shooting career, which started as a teenager buying my first center fire rifle, a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington, a recoil step up from my trusty Winchester Model 74 .22 and Stevens 87A 20 ga shotgun I learned, primarily from the Marlin...If it hurts to shoot it find a way to mitigate it hurting you. For the Marlin in the early 60's that was a washcloth folded over and held under a bra strap holding it in place. It wasn't very pretty, but it worked. Another thing is to hold the butt of the rifle stock HARD into your shoulder. A loose butt results in instant pain not soon to be forgotten. Each and every time you pull the trigger and the rifle recoils it's another step closer to shoulder issues. The harder the recoil the faster it's going to happen, and it will eventually happen to those that choose to ignore recoil. It will eventually come back and bite you...in the shoulder so it should not come as a surprise when the Doc says, you need shoulder surgery.
OK. the challenge was too great. I do not have any use for the .380. There I have said it and this is based on lessons learned while I was young and naive and learned that a .380 isn't much better than a .22. Long story here.
This Gal speaks some truth………OK. the challenge was too great. I do not have any use for the .380. There I have said it and this is based on lessons learned while I was young and naive and learned that a .380 isn't much better than a .22. Long story here.
Seems like a lot of hate the last couple pages towards the 380. Yes the newer 9’s are close in size but I purchased my 380 LCP years ago when if you wanted small you went 380.. With today’s self defense ammo the 380 is a much better performer.
I with you on that, it’s a good accurate round ! It has light recoil and is a excellent deer cartridge ! The fan base is ravenous however , touting this round as the end all be all to the shooting world . I had a guy at a local gun shop claim the it starts to out perform the 26 Nosler at 500 yards and beyond ! How do you respond to that kind of logic ? 40 years ago it was the 06 ! I think our hate comes from the nonsense we have to listen to about the rounds that have the cult following
Hmm 143 eldx has a bc of .623 vs the 162& 175 eldx in 7mm which are .631 & .689 respectively. I’d say that’s better ballistic efficiency.
The Creedqueens are the vegans of the shooting sports…just ask em.
