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Lefty7mmstw

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shoot the thing out with the 9.5" on it... the 7rem can't push anything heavy fast enough to make the 8"twist really worth it imo… You would need a bigger 7mm for that... I'm loving my 7stw's 8 twist with the 175 eld-x lately and will likely hunt my mule deer buck with it this fall, but I've done plenty of damage with 140 and 150 grain 7mm pills that will shoot just fine through a 10" twist... shoot first imo., re-barrel if she doesn't do what you want her to... 300 or so is a hell of a long way to a better barrel than factory anyway.
 

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You bet I asked "what would you do" and I fully expected the whole gamut of answers ... I'm not rubbed the wrong way by any of the answers....this is the internet and if I couldn't handle the responses i should have never posted .. trust me I'm more than familiar with public forums.

I just wanted to see what others had to say, yes I am defending the seller as I feel he offered several solutions to right the problem...I also know that his offers would not please everyone if they were in the same situation. In the end I will make my own decision and live with it one way or the other. No harm no foul and I appreciate all the feed back I did get.

I'm still not 100% decided but I have had the chance to measure several bullets I have on hand and I can actually hit lands at mag length (and have extra room) so that is a big plus for brownings chamber and magazine.... I had another 7rm that I couldn't even get close to the lands at mag length. These things are good to know.
 

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I just ordered what I thought was an x-bolt stalker long range in 7 rem mag with the 1:8 twist barrel for what I thought was a great price

BUT a problem popped up, browning used the exact same manufactures part number and UPC number for the new 1:8 twist barrels as last years 1:9.5 twist barrels so the rifle I got was a 1:9.5 twist that the seller actually believed was the 1:8 twist

My intended purpose was a dual purpose rifle-- hunting out to 600 yards and target shooting out to 1000 yards--I was amped on getting to try the new heavy weight .284 bullets but not sure If I would actually use them for hunting or just for target

here is my question I have to answer for my self--but what would you do??

the seller is offering me 3 choices

#1--to refund me 100% of what I paid ($630) for the rifle and send me a pre-paid return label to return the rifle--I would be out $30 for FFL transfer and colorado CBI fees

#2, the seller told me he would be loosing about $100 in shipping fees and profit if I return the rifle for a full refund so he offered for me to keep the 1:9.5 twist rife and to give me $100 back on my credit card (lowering the cost down to $530) and I would not loose the $30 FFL/CBI fees I have paid as I would keep the rifle

#3 the seller offered to send me a pre-paid return label to return the rifle with the wrong twist rate and then I could pay him an additional $145 (effectively making the 1:8 twist rifle a total of $775, but I would loose the $30 FFL/CBI fees I have paid) to special order/back order the correct 1:8 twist rifle from Browning BUT he said that Browning would not give him a tentative production/ship date for the back order rifle

also if I keep the current rifle I can file for the $50 rebate from browning bringing the total out of pocket down to $480 for the x-bolt stalker long range 1:9.5 rifle


even though I was stoked to play with heavies in this rifle (and be one of the first production rifles with a 1:8 twist 7 rem mag) -- I'm leaning towards taking the cash back and the rebate from browning as it would be $325 more to get the faster twist rate barreled rifle and I'm not sure it will make that much difference at the distances I'm wanting to shoot

what think you? what would you do??

by the way, the seller has been more than apologetic and more than gracious to go out of his way to try to fix the problem at hand including taking back and refunding the full cost on an internet rifle sale-- he has definitely won future business from me and I am glad I chose him to purchase this rifle from as it could have been a huge fiasco where I had to fight tooth and nail to try to get the issue resolved ---kudos to him
I would keep the rifle with the extra credit , play with it if it doesn’t perform you should be able to sell for what you have in it pretty easy!
 

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Run hypothetical velocities with your favorite heavy and again with the 162 ELD M in your ballistic calculator. You’ll be surprised that you don’t give up much using a fast 162 compared to a slower heavy.
 

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What sell someone crap you don't want? Ever heard of "The Golden Rule"?

"I would keep the rifle with the extra credit , play with it if it doesn’t perform you should be able to sell for what you have in it pretty easy!"

This is exactly why I would return it and get my money back! Why put yourself in the position of dumping a lemon? If you don't want it why would I?
 
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I agree with you about the seller offering good solutions to correct the issue. What would I do? I would return it.
 

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I would keep it and use the extra money for reloading components or save it for a rebarrel. After all the seller is willing to take a loss on it to make it right even thought it's not 100% his fault. He sounds like a nice guy.
 

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All of you barrel twisters out there. Does his barrel have the same threads as my abolt stalker? If so cohunt, how much do you want for the barrel?
Browning has used 2 different thread pitches on the A-Bolt rifles... 1) 15/16 x 20 TPI, and 2) 1" x 32 TPI. And you won't know which one your A-Bolt has until you pull the original barrel. I believe the A-Bolt II and the X-Bolt use the same 1" x 32 TPI threads, but that's speculation, as I can't find anywhere online where someone has rebarreled an X-Bolt, to verify the thread pitch.
 

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Browning has used 2 different thread pitches on the A-Bolt rifles... 1) 15/16 x 20 TPI, and 2) 1" x 32 TPI. And you won't know which one your A-Bolt has until you pull the original barrel. I believe the A-Bolt II and the X-Bolt use the same 1" x 32 TPI threads, but that's speculation, as I can't find anywhere online where someone has rebarreled an X-Bolt, to verify the thread pitch.

It is an early one. 1998 7 rm for a western hunt in Wyoming. Thanks tor the info.
 

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cohunt, I have a Hell's Canyon Speed in same caliber with the 1-9.5 twist. It is shooting Nosler Accubond 160 grain bullets exceptionally well. 71 grains H-1000 is 3100 fps. Very accurate.
 

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I totally agree with Mudrunner.
Really, not your problem. It is the shop's problem to correct, at no cost to you. I am actually surprised at his "options" he gave you. The shop should be paying all costs to make it right.
 

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I recently purchased a Browning HC LR in 7mag. It didn't have the twist rate stamped on the barrel. I asked about it and the seller called the serial number in and they told him it was 1 in 8. So I took their word for it. After reading this thread I measured it and it is indeed a 1 in 9.5 .
So is the difference worth the trouble to hopefully get an exchange?
 

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I recently purchased a Browning HC LR in 7mag. It didn't have the twist rate stamped on the barrel. I asked about it and the seller called the serial number in and they told him it was 1 in 8. So I took their word for it. After reading this thread I measured it and it is indeed a 1 in 9.5 .
So is the difference worth the trouble to hopefully get an exchange?

If you have an invoice with "1 in 8" on it, send it back and get what you ordered. Without it you are probably screwed. Just depends on you relationship with the seller.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Also depends on if you really need a 1 in 8. Unless you have some 195 Bergers on the shelf.
 
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