Coyote_Hunter
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My fishing and hunting hobbies have cost me far more than purchasing fish and meat at the grocery store. That was kind of the point. Reloading actually saves me money and has since the first year I started.
Well finally did it...sold all my reloading stuff !! Anyone else shooting factory ?
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My fishing and hunting hobbies have cost me far more than purchasing fish and meat at the grocery store. That was kind of the point. Reloading actually saves me money and has since the first year I started.
I do. ELDM is Consistent and accurate out to 1k.
Coyote_Hunter
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I agree practice is important and I agree there are diminishing returns for accuracy - the smaller the groups the less further decreases in group size mean anything practical for hunting purposes.
I also agree that reloading isn't for most people.
That said, I don't know anyone who loses time at the range because they reload, but I can point to a fair number of people who have lost time at the range when the couldn't find factory ammo.
It's funny you mentioned this I was just thinking the same way. Out of all mine reloading is probably the cheapest.
If it does what your wanting then fine. There is no way somebody is gonna convince me factory ammo will shot out past 500 yards day in and day out with a properly tuned handload I've seen it to many times with factory. Sure there is some instances but not day in and day out. Hornandy bullets are not consistent enough for my liking and if you ever measured them base to ogive compared to say a Berger you would see what I'm talking about. 005 makes a difference on a bullet past 500. When you get that unexpected flier was it the wind, you or was it the bullet?
Like I've said before I had a guy bring me a 300WM that he was convinced something was wrong with the gun, it wasnt the gun it was the Hornandy superformance ammo 180 grain that had 100.E.S.
Even though the supposably same ammo he bought before was shooting .5 m.o.a.
If factory ammo suits your needs then buy it, for purposes raw accuracy handloads tuned right everytime if this wasnt the case alot of BR would be shooting factory and as far as I know not one is that's competive.
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I was talking about performance of factory ammunition. You are a master hand loader and ballistician. Only a fool would assume factory would outperform a hand tuned, rifle specific cartridge. I come from a bench rest back ground, so I know.
It seems that the subject may be a little too close to home for you to appreciate my point. My point is this:
You don't always have to hand load to be competitive in shooting sports or successful hunting.
through the years I have found some factory ammo to shoot well in some of my rifles but I have always been able to improve on it by reloading not always at the 100 yard mark but at longer ranges 300 on out I have never bought any of the high end custom loaded ammo I am sure it would perform be
I have read through 9 pages of this seems some have turned it into an argument some what I think if you are happy buying factory more power to you as this may give you more time to do things you think are more important I reload it is a stress reliever some times and a stress creator others to each his own good luck with your new endeavor
I think you are exactly right, in my opinion it's when some people try and say factory ammo is as good as a well tuned handload and it's simply not true and then start adding time vrs money. Any hobby cost money some more than others.
It's not a one size fits all.
Thanks for the compliment Holycity but I dont consider myself one, I've been hand loading a long time and I still learn something almost everytime I sit down at the bench.
Wildcat cartridges have taught me more about hand loading than any other cartridges simply because theres not much info about them and it makes you think outside the box.
Savage 12BVSS
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Always make myself read the pages of debate and opinions before posting Whew! 
I envision a time happening at some point when factory ammo of any kind will become impossible to get, who can predict why or how but there's a lot I never thought I would see and have. Yeah the component hoarder will eventually runout as well, but way after the factory ammo has dried up off the shelves. Its not at all out of the question to stockpile to load 8-10 thousand rounds of centerfire. This isn't a time or cost question for me, its a question of how long will you still have ammo......period. Most of ya might think I'm a doomsdayer but the times they are a changing and if this country ever comes under conventional attack we won't defend it and our families long with a broomstick and hollering bang
That said I will always prefer the ability to make my own and enjoy the accuracy and freedom it brings. I reload for fun not how much my time costs! We gonna throw all the wildcats and older calibers out? Food for thought........how long before socialism becomes law of the land?
I envision a time happening at some point when factory ammo of any kind will become impossible to get, who can predict why or how but there's a lot I never thought I would see and have. Yeah the component hoarder will eventually runout as well, but way after the factory ammo has dried up off the shelves. Its not at all out of the question to stockpile to load 8-10 thousand rounds of centerfire. This isn't a time or cost question for me, its a question of how long will you still have ammo......period. Most of ya might think I'm a doomsdayer but the times they are a changing and if this country ever comes under conventional attack we won't defend it and our families long with a broomstick and hollering bang
That said I will always prefer the ability to make my own and enjoy the accuracy and freedom it brings. I reload for fun not how much my time costs! We gonna throw all the wildcats and older calibers out? Food for thought........how long before socialism becomes law of the land?
Coyote_Hunter
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silvertip-co
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i reloaded fpr 45y or so. got tired of it and sold my stuff to a ft carson guy. i shoot strictly factory ammo in diff cals and diff brands. when i was working every month id buy a 100 or 200.00 of factory ammo. then when i shot at the range id shoot a box or two ea time, except w my ars i sjot more. so when i retired in dec i had plenty of ammo built up. and ive done some amazing shooting at 300 425 and 600 yards. todays computer made factory ammo is so good ill never ever go back to reloading. luv testing ammo. now what did i do w that tax return check...
CoyoteHunter that's a sweet bench! Gives me a few ideas for my own....It's gonna be so awesome sitting at our benches in 10yrs+teaching grandkids how to reload their own bullets & telling them stories about how we used to be able to go to McDonalds & they would actually make our hamburgers for us & there was hundreds of them & they were delicious & they would even give us ketchup in little packets for our french fries
