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<blockquote data-quote="Big John" data-source="post: 17635" data-attributes="member: 1882"><p>Blaine Wrote:</p><p></p><p> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> My solution was to write a program that allowed me to set the actual click value of my scope and have the output in terms of my turret so I wouldn't be hampered with this deviation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> </p><p></p><p>I guess I can understand how that would work. But isn't that the wrong way of addressing the problem? Long ago, our Government set forward a Bureau of Weights & Measures to standardize measuring devices. Imagine if we accepted USO's NONSPECIFIC measurements across the board. </p><p></p><p>One gas stations Gallon may equal to another's Pint. </p><p>Every hardware store would have their own 4x8 size of plywood, none the same size as others.</p><p>When ordering shoes, you may be a size 4 or perhaps a 36.</p><p>An inch could be as short as your thumbnail, or as long as your driveway.</p><p></p><p>You get the picture.</p><p></p><p>Now, apparently you have received software engineering training that allows you to write such programs. ( I downloaded the sample program by the way, very nice you data closely matches my actual dope ) but as for me, I don't have such programming skills. So I rely on known standardized measurements such as inches, meters, gallons or in this case –Minute Of Angle. If USO decides to use their own standard of measurements, then why are they not advertised as USO – MOA, or as noted earlier when comparing mine and your discrepancies, not even consistent between their own scopes? </p><p></p><p>For the life of me can not see what good a scope with non specific adjustments is! Another example: We are shooting at 625 yards me with my rifle & scope, you with yours. To make the example easy, we'll say both scopes are ¼ moa clicks. Now coincidently, we notice that both out splash is off 3 ½ inches left. As per my training I pull out a sheet of paper or pocket calculator and divide correction needed in inches divided by range in hundreds of yards to acquire correction needed in MOA; 3.5 / 6.25 = 0.56… so I come left two clicks, *bang* Hit on steel. But unless you have you laptop with you, I'd say you're S-O-L. Also, as your spotter, I am completely unable to help you. </p><p></p><p>USO customers should not have to be able to write special programs just to calculate trajectory adjustments. It's the job of the people at the factory to make sure their product track at the increments they advertise.</p><p></p><p>Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, just present my points in the strongest possible terms.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p></p><p>Big John</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big John, post: 17635, member: 1882"] Blaine Wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> My solution was to write a program that allowed me to set the actual click value of my scope and have the output in terms of my turret so I wouldn't be hampered with this deviation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I guess I can understand how that would work. But isn’t that the wrong way of addressing the problem? Long ago, our Government set forward a Bureau of Weights & Measures to standardize measuring devices. Imagine if we accepted USO’s NONSPECIFIC measurements across the board. One gas stations Gallon may equal to another’s Pint. Every hardware store would have their own 4x8 size of plywood, none the same size as others. When ordering shoes, you may be a size 4 or perhaps a 36. An inch could be as short as your thumbnail, or as long as your driveway. You get the picture. Now, apparently you have received software engineering training that allows you to write such programs. ( I downloaded the sample program by the way, very nice you data closely matches my actual dope ) but as for me, I don’t have such programming skills. So I rely on known standardized measurements such as inches, meters, gallons or in this case –Minute Of Angle. If USO decides to use their own standard of measurements, then why are they not advertised as USO – MOA, or as noted earlier when comparing mine and your discrepancies, not even consistent between their own scopes? For the life of me can not see what good a scope with non specific adjustments is! Another example: We are shooting at 625 yards me with my rifle & scope, you with yours. To make the example easy, we’ll say both scopes are ¼ moa clicks. Now coincidently, we notice that both out splash is off 3 ½ inches left. As per my training I pull out a sheet of paper or pocket calculator and divide correction needed in inches divided by range in hundreds of yards to acquire correction needed in MOA; 3.5 / 6.25 = 0.56… so I come left two clicks, *bang* Hit on steel. But unless you have you laptop with you, I’d say you’re S-O-L. Also, as your spotter, I am completely unable to help you. USO customers should not have to be able to write special programs just to calculate trajectory adjustments. It’s the job of the people at the factory to make sure their product track at the increments they advertise. Again, I’m not trying to offend anyone, just present my points in the strongest possible terms. Regards, Big John [/QUOTE]
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