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URGENT! :) Need opinion on quality scope for .300wsm Savage 16 Weather Warrior....
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<blockquote data-quote="Nate Haler" data-source="post: 16675" data-attributes="member: 315"><p>Hope you don't mind candor -- forget the Leupold VXII stuff, it's overrated, and a mediocre accuracy scope at best if you get one of the previous generation with the friction adjustments.</p><p></p><p>I'm a value buyer; best performance for money spent. If that's you too, then you owe it to yourself to look at Sightron, Weaver Grand Slam, and Bushnell Elite 3200/4200 stuff. All of them will cost the same or less than a VX2, and in my considerable experience are better scopes.</p><p></p><p>Save the flames, Leupold groupies, I have several of their Mark 4 and VX3 products, and love them. But the VX2 is not in the same league as the better Japanese optics. It's more accurate (pun intended) to compare the scopes mentioned to the VX3 line. One piece tubes, fully multicoated optics, positive click adjustments, and forever warranties. So what if the mfg. replaces a scope instead of repairing it? Either way, you get the problem fixed.</p><p></p><p>Of the group mentioned, I consider the Sightron 4-16x42 the best buy, because I have used one in competition in rain, mud, wind, dust, heat, cold and a couple of hunts in similar conditions, and it has never had a glitch. By FAR the most repeatable scope I have ever used. Dial in twenty minutes of elevation to shoot at 700 yards, dial back down to your 100y zero, and your shots are on top of the first group you shot there.</p><p></p><p>I might even have an extra one, as I saw one for a bargain price on another board, and figured somebody should buy it (and that if it had to be me, oh well). However, it's black matte. You *can* get the Sightron in a matte silver, and the scope weighs 16 oz. I don't think you will mind the extra magnification, and for the longer range shooting you describe, it will be to your advantage. Also, this particular scope has an adjustable objective, which I also think is a big advantage for longer range, precision shooting. Unless you'll shoot in heavy brush at short range, the 4x should be plenty low enough for closer in stuff. <img src="http://images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>The Sightron 4-16x42 has 56 moa of elevation, and if you get the mil-dot reticle, you can then use the dots for holdover. I do this when shooting past 800y, and it works.</p><p></p><p>Just my opinion, and worth what it cost.</p><p> <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Lastly, I would be remiss if I did not include the outstanding Nikon 'Monarch' if you are stuck on the 3-9x40 thing. Don't know if it's available in silver, but it is a better scope than the VX2, for less money. Want a matte black one? I've got one (surplus, considering I have five other Nikon scopes) new in the original box, never used in any way or even fondled, for $239.00 (US).</p><p></p><p>[ 08-24-2003: Message edited by: Nate Haler ]</p><p></p><p>[ 08-24-2003: Message edited by: Nate Haler ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nate Haler, post: 16675, member: 315"] Hope you don't mind candor -- forget the Leupold VXII stuff, it's overrated, and a mediocre accuracy scope at best if you get one of the previous generation with the friction adjustments. I'm a value buyer; best performance for money spent. If that's you too, then you owe it to yourself to look at Sightron, Weaver Grand Slam, and Bushnell Elite 3200/4200 stuff. All of them will cost the same or less than a VX2, and in my considerable experience are better scopes. Save the flames, Leupold groupies, I have several of their Mark 4 and VX3 products, and love them. But the VX2 is not in the same league as the better Japanese optics. It's more accurate (pun intended) to compare the scopes mentioned to the VX3 line. One piece tubes, fully multicoated optics, positive click adjustments, and forever warranties. So what if the mfg. replaces a scope instead of repairing it? Either way, you get the problem fixed. Of the group mentioned, I consider the Sightron 4-16x42 the best buy, because I have used one in competition in rain, mud, wind, dust, heat, cold and a couple of hunts in similar conditions, and it has never had a glitch. By FAR the most repeatable scope I have ever used. Dial in twenty minutes of elevation to shoot at 700 yards, dial back down to your 100y zero, and your shots are on top of the first group you shot there. I might even have an extra one, as I saw one for a bargain price on another board, and figured somebody should buy it (and that if it had to be me, oh well). However, it's black matte. You *can* get the Sightron in a matte silver, and the scope weighs 16 oz. I don't think you will mind the extra magnification, and for the longer range shooting you describe, it will be to your advantage. Also, this particular scope has an adjustable objective, which I also think is a big advantage for longer range, precision shooting. Unless you'll shoot in heavy brush at short range, the 4x should be plenty low enough for closer in stuff. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] The Sightron 4-16x42 has 56 moa of elevation, and if you get the mil-dot reticle, you can then use the dots for holdover. I do this when shooting past 800y, and it works. Just my opinion, and worth what it cost. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Lastly, I would be remiss if I did not include the outstanding Nikon 'Monarch' if you are stuck on the 3-9x40 thing. Don't know if it's available in silver, but it is a better scope than the VX2, for less money. Want a matte black one? I've got one (surplus, considering I have five other Nikon scopes) new in the original box, never used in any way or even fondled, for $239.00 (US). [ 08-24-2003: Message edited by: Nate Haler ] [ 08-24-2003: Message edited by: Nate Haler ] [/QUOTE]
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