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Update on the high BC hammers?
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<blockquote data-quote="Wedgy" data-source="post: 2679174" data-attributes="member: 64108"><p>They are a bit more finicky on seating depth but predictable, either at the lands or - .005" or .0200-.0300" off.</p><p>I have actually shot a ladder test that progressively went clockwise around the clock 4" off center at 600 yards, never seen anything like it. Monos seem to have a lot more horizontal shift with powder charge changes than lead bullets. CEB's have a bit more bearing surface than Hammers so you won't get as much velocity but the trade off is the higher BC so if you are shooting past ~700 yards then Lazer pays off. I run the 140 Lazer at 3,080fps from a 6.5 Sherman and I have a .660 BC out to 1,404 yards, works on the Revic and Sig. They have a big hollowpoint with a plastic tip and expand down to 1,300 fps, same characteristics where the front breaks off and the shank penetrates thru. The Lazers do this more so than their MTH line that has a smaller hollowpoint and no plastic tip, not as much expansion from the MTH line.</p><p>I can run the Hammers just as easily and dope a bit more, if you run the numbers it's ever so slight. But....and it's a big hairy butt.....I ordered from CEB on last years black friday sale and got my bullets in May of the following year so if you want your bullets fast then go with Hammer. I have sold CEB bullets to 3 forum members who were out and needed them for an upcoming hunt. Something to keep in mind.</p><p>Bottom line is that everything is a compromise in some way and there's really no right or wrong choice, glad we have lots of choices....I'm sure huntnful will try all of them !</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wedgy, post: 2679174, member: 64108"] They are a bit more finicky on seating depth but predictable, either at the lands or - .005" or .0200-.0300" off. I have actually shot a ladder test that progressively went clockwise around the clock 4" off center at 600 yards, never seen anything like it. Monos seem to have a lot more horizontal shift with powder charge changes than lead bullets. CEB's have a bit more bearing surface than Hammers so you won't get as much velocity but the trade off is the higher BC so if you are shooting past ~700 yards then Lazer pays off. I run the 140 Lazer at 3,080fps from a 6.5 Sherman and I have a .660 BC out to 1,404 yards, works on the Revic and Sig. They have a big hollowpoint with a plastic tip and expand down to 1,300 fps, same characteristics where the front breaks off and the shank penetrates thru. The Lazers do this more so than their MTH line that has a smaller hollowpoint and no plastic tip, not as much expansion from the MTH line. I can run the Hammers just as easily and dope a bit more, if you run the numbers it's ever so slight. But....and it's a big hairy butt.....I ordered from CEB on last years black friday sale and got my bullets in May of the following year so if you want your bullets fast then go with Hammer. I have sold CEB bullets to 3 forum members who were out and needed them for an upcoming hunt. Something to keep in mind. Bottom line is that everything is a compromise in some way and there's really no right or wrong choice, glad we have lots of choices....I'm sure huntnful will try all of them ! [/QUOTE]
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