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To Build or To Buy . . . That is The ???
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<blockquote data-quote="lckytylr" data-source="post: 1069235" data-attributes="member: 60857"><p><strong>Re: To Build or To Buy . . . That is The ??? . . .. Update</strong></p><p></p><p>So, I went out with the builder today and shot the ready-to-shoot rifle.</p><p></p><p>300 WM</p><p>Bartlein 24" w/ Brake</p><p>Defiance Deviant Tactical</p><p>Manner's Carbon Elite Tac</p><p>Jewell Trigger</p><p>Leupold VX-6 w/ Varmint ret</p><p></p><p>Disclaimer, I have NEVER shot a custom or even a semi-custom rifle prior to today. I have struggled with factory rifles for several years always wondering "is it me . . . or the rifle?". I, likely, have never shot a rifle with such a light and quality trigger (2 lbs). Until today, I'd never even tried to shoot a rifle beyond 300 yards because I have never been behind one that could hold a group to make it worth stretching out that far.</p><p></p><p>The very first 3-shots at 100 could be covered by a dime. Pretty impressive start. We input the ballistics into the builders G7 BR2. First shot at 580 yards looked high. Second shot hit the top of the 12" gong. We adjusted (not enough) and hit almost in the same spot (a little lower). Let the gun cool and got back into it. Mind you, these are my 7, 8 and 9 shots EVER out of a long range gun, all were hits somewhat scattered about on the gong. I was fighting the bubble level, I'd get the bubble leveled and the crosshairs just looked incredibly canted, so I was reluctant to trust them . . . but did anyways.</p><p></p><p>Let the rifle cool and decided to take two more shots before the wind picked up any more. Nearly centered on the gong, 1-1/2" from each other (my 10th & 11th shots).</p><p></p><p>So, I went into today with zero expectations. I was very impressed with the experience.</p><p></p><p>The rifle only feels (just BARELY) heavier than my current rifle (Rem 700 - 300 RUM). If I have a rifle built to the specs that I want, it would be very similar to this rifle and only be 6 oz. lighter. The negatives of a build would be that it wouldn't have any load development done for it (I can do that, but I have done plenty of that for my current rifle and it's been frustrating). Additionally, this gun has a better stock than what I'd probably have on a built rifle.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what I want to do. This rifle is very nearly exactly what I want. If I have a rifle built, at this point, it would really only be to say that it was custom-built For Me . . . which isn't really that big of a deal for me. If I go with the build option, I don't know that it would shoot as well as this particular rifle. I have seen several other builds from this smith and he does a great job, but he's openly stated that the guns I have seen in action are not as accurate as this rifle are.</p><p></p><p>I strongly feel that, given more time to become familiar with such a light trigger, I could get much much much better with this rifle, so that dime size out-to-out group could get smaller, I know I can do that.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts, suggestions, opinions?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lckytylr, post: 1069235, member: 60857"] [b]Re: To Build or To Buy . . . That is The ??? . . .. Update[/b] So, I went out with the builder today and shot the ready-to-shoot rifle. 300 WM Bartlein 24" w/ Brake Defiance Deviant Tactical Manner's Carbon Elite Tac Jewell Trigger Leupold VX-6 w/ Varmint ret Disclaimer, I have NEVER shot a custom or even a semi-custom rifle prior to today. I have struggled with factory rifles for several years always wondering "is it me . . . or the rifle?". I, likely, have never shot a rifle with such a light and quality trigger (2 lbs). Until today, I'd never even tried to shoot a rifle beyond 300 yards because I have never been behind one that could hold a group to make it worth stretching out that far. The very first 3-shots at 100 could be covered by a dime. Pretty impressive start. We input the ballistics into the builders G7 BR2. First shot at 580 yards looked high. Second shot hit the top of the 12" gong. We adjusted (not enough) and hit almost in the same spot (a little lower). Let the gun cool and got back into it. Mind you, these are my 7, 8 and 9 shots EVER out of a long range gun, all were hits somewhat scattered about on the gong. I was fighting the bubble level, I'd get the bubble leveled and the crosshairs just looked incredibly canted, so I was reluctant to trust them . . . but did anyways. Let the rifle cool and decided to take two more shots before the wind picked up any more. Nearly centered on the gong, 1-1/2" from each other (my 10th & 11th shots). So, I went into today with zero expectations. I was very impressed with the experience. The rifle only feels (just BARELY) heavier than my current rifle (Rem 700 - 300 RUM). If I have a rifle built to the specs that I want, it would be very similar to this rifle and only be 6 oz. lighter. The negatives of a build would be that it wouldn't have any load development done for it (I can do that, but I have done plenty of that for my current rifle and it's been frustrating). Additionally, this gun has a better stock than what I'd probably have on a built rifle. I don't know what I want to do. This rifle is very nearly exactly what I want. If I have a rifle built, at this point, it would really only be to say that it was custom-built For Me . . . which isn't really that big of a deal for me. If I go with the build option, I don't know that it would shoot as well as this particular rifle. I have seen several other builds from this smith and he does a great job, but he's openly stated that the guns I have seen in action are not as accurate as this rifle are. I strongly feel that, given more time to become familiar with such a light trigger, I could get much much much better with this rifle, so that dime size out-to-out group could get smaller, I know I can do that. Any thoughts, suggestions, opinions? [/QUOTE]
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