To brake or not to brake...

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by Litehiker, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

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    I have two Browning rifles with brakes.

    The 1st is a .300 Win mag Browning A-Bolt and on that rifle I use a brake and ear plugs.

    The 2nd is a 6.5 Creedmoor Browning X-Bolt Pro and on that rifle I use the thread protector cap B/C the recoil with a 6.5 CM is very manageable, even on that 6 lb. 1 oz. rifle. that weighs 7 lbs. 14 oz. W/ scope & rings.

    To me it is a matter of recoil management. If I win the lottery and use a guide he would also need ear plugs for the .300 Win mag A-Bolt. The brake on that rifle is non-negotiable.

    Thoughts?

    Eric B.
     
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  2. NEMTHunter

    NEMTHunter Well-Known Member

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    My brother has a Ruger american in 6.5 creedmore. They are light guns recoil is not bad I shoot a 06 with 215 bergers @2850 FPS and do not use a brake. Recoil is fine.

    Back on track my brother bought a brake for the 6.5 and I got it clocked for him. What a difference! no recoil to speak of, BUT IMHO the biggest advantage is the gun does not jump up when you shoot it. That to me is the big plus of the brake on the 6.5. It was so nice I am now thinking about braking my 06 and .243. The gun I am building will have a brake no questions asked...
     
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  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    If you want to use the 300 WM remove the brake and use a thread protector just like the 6.5 and deal with the recoil.

    This is not an uncommon practice when going on guided hunts, Practice with the brake and replace with the thread protector just before the hunt (Making sure your zero has not changed) recoil is not as pronounced during a hunt as it is at the range.

    J E CUSTOM
     
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  4. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

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    JE,
    I should have mentioned that my .300 Win mag A-Bolt has a BOSS system so I have to leave either the ported brake on or replace it with a "no brake" solid BOSS. I actually forgot I had that I had the solid BOSS option until you suggested a thread cap. I'll dig the solid BOSS out of my safe. Yep, shooting shot after shot under Boulder City's roofed ranges is different from the wide open spaces of hunting and shooting one or two shots.

    My 6.5 CM Ruger Precision Rifle has a Little Bastard brake so I can see my hits/misses during competitions. I'm entirely familiar with the advantages & disadvantages of a brake. I'll soon have a suppressor for my RPR and shooters beside me will not be so irritated. ;o)

    Eric B.
     
  5. 86alaskan

    86alaskan Well-Known Member

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    You said it, eliminate the brake altogether and just run suppressed all the time. That's what I do. No need for ear plugs while hunting, greater shooter and bystander comfort, often increased accuracy. While it may not reduce recoil as much on a larger magnum, it still changes the recoil impulse to a shove rather than a kick. My 338 RUM is 11.5lbs all in with can and bipod, and it shoots great without the sharp recoil associated with the large mag.
     
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  6. Lionheart

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    Brake. Bring an extra set of new technology ear plugs for your guide if he doesn't already have them. Hear game better. no problem with shot report. Best of both worlds.
    Look at competitive shotgun shooting forums...plugs or muffs that enhance earing and protect at same time are very affordable these days...every professional guide should have them anyway imho.
     
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  7. WildRose

    WildRose Well-Known Member

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    As I get older I'm more firm in the idea that I'm not going to take any heavy recoiling rifles into the field for LR work that are not either braked or suppressed.

    Guides have earplugs, muffs, hands, and know that if they stand behind you the brake is not going to cause them any serious problems as the blast is directed out to the sides, top, and front, not behind unless you're shooting a really rude model.
     
  8. geo4061

    geo4061 Well-Known Member

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    Lionheart which ones do you recommend? No doubt a brake should be standard equipment on every rifle. I love spotting my hits.
     
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  9. 86alaskan

    86alaskan Well-Known Member

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    member on here IdahoCTD makes the Beast brake. Business is muzzlebrakesandmore. the beast is a very good brake at a great price. great guy to deal with.
     
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  10. J E Custom

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    There was a post a few days ago that talked about the popularity boss system and for some reason my post didn't make it, so i will add the highlights of that post in case it shows up

    The love/hate relationship with this system has to do with the cartridge more than the boss. the boss is designed the same no mater what cartridge is used only the bore changes to accommodate bullet caliber.

    The adjustable feature is good for tuning harmonics, but this feature
    can be its downfall with certain cartridges because in out testing all types of muzzle brakes we found that there was an optimum distance from the muzzle to the front of the back ports. Normally is was a minimum of one caliber, and if the muzzle/crown encroached on this
    overall performance was effected. while adjusting the boss, this is very possible. The other problem was that it was designed when most people shot factory loads that normally offered two different bullet sizes. So when reloading realy cranked up, it was ineffective in many cartridges.

    In its time, it was a great idea and made an improvement in many factory rifles with factory loads. There is nothing wrong with it in certain cartridges but in other cartridges it just didn't work hence the hate by some.

    The recoil reduction was poor at best (Fairly good at the time) the design was ok except it did not have enough port volume for most of the larger cartridges so it was ineffective and often could not produce the results expected. and Yes these brakes are very loud when shooting under cover.

    I have made thread protectors that allowed the barrel weight to remain in place and simply replace the brake portion of the system.
    It actually looks good when the thread protector is fitted close to the barrel and turned smooth for bluing.

    Sorry about getting side tracked, but having experience with the boss system it would explain why they worked good on some rifle cartridges and did not work on others.

    J E CUSTOM
     
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  11. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

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    JE,
    The BOSS brake (and closed version) worked pretty well with 180 gr. Federal and 180 gr. Winchester Factory loads and, strangely, very well with a 191 gr. Lapua round I hand loaded for my .300 Win mag, 700 Rem.-actioned HS Precision target rifle.

    Eric B.
     
  12. Wolf76

    Wolf76 Well-Known Member

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    Unless you're shooting suppressed, plugs are necessary. Why not mitigate recoil and shoot more accurately? I'm a fan of brakes.
     
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  13. Canhunter35

    Canhunter35 Well-Known Member

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    With the electronic ear protection available there’s no reason to not use it whether ur hunting braked or unbraked
    I put brakes on most everything, even my 22lr has one lol
     
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  14. Litehiker

    Litehiker Well-Known Member

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    With 80% hearing loss in one ear I ALWAYS wear hearing protection, range or hunting.
    So I guess I'll keep the brake on the .300 Win. mag. and none on the 6.5 CM, as I mentioned in my OP above.