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<blockquote data-quote="toddc" data-source="post: 732225" data-attributes="member: 4566"><p>So are you saying that all of the "I shot my deer with a berger in the lungs and it lived for 3 years" threads are bs? LMAO</p><p>Before anyone discusses anything related to terminal ballistics they should have a solid understanding of TRADITIONAL bullet design not related to bonding, polymers or plastics.</p><p>In reading all of these bullet threads about bergers its apparent that few understand SD and calibers and length and how it relates to performance. These are things any true gun crank knew about before the controlled expansion phase.Back in the day it was more about what weight to use for a given penetration. Same thing with a berger, since there are no CRUTCHES like barnes,swift and other makes. Seems to me many have lost common sense and are shooting 110 ttsx at elk because of MARKETERS not ballistic theorists.</p><p>Quit relying on bonds,tips and petals to do the job of a properly sized bullet. There is no replacement for a certain amount of sectional density and bullet manufacturers attempts to circumvent this has lead to hunters shooting game with bullets 30% too light as a bandaid.</p><p>And yes Ive killed a few with bergers at low velocity and the long VLDs always seem to tear something up. Seems they like to roll around and do gymnastics inside. Usually pretty hard on an animal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toddc, post: 732225, member: 4566"] So are you saying that all of the "I shot my deer with a berger in the lungs and it lived for 3 years" threads are bs? LMAO Before anyone discusses anything related to terminal ballistics they should have a solid understanding of TRADITIONAL bullet design not related to bonding, polymers or plastics. In reading all of these bullet threads about bergers its apparent that few understand SD and calibers and length and how it relates to performance. These are things any true gun crank knew about before the controlled expansion phase.Back in the day it was more about what weight to use for a given penetration. Same thing with a berger, since there are no CRUTCHES like barnes,swift and other makes. Seems to me many have lost common sense and are shooting 110 ttsx at elk because of MARKETERS not ballistic theorists. Quit relying on bonds,tips and petals to do the job of a properly sized bullet. There is no replacement for a certain amount of sectional density and bullet manufacturers attempts to circumvent this has lead to hunters shooting game with bullets 30% too light as a bandaid. And yes Ive killed a few with bergers at low velocity and the long VLDs always seem to tear something up. Seems they like to roll around and do gymnastics inside. Usually pretty hard on an animal. [/QUOTE]
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