So here is the deal. I expect animals to drop in their tracks if I put a good shot on them... as we all do. However, I am having a hard time with the terminal ballistics of Accubonds. Over the past two years, I have had some successful hunts, however at the expense of a lot of bullets going into animals that should not required that many. I am shooting 180 grain accubonds out of my 300WM at 3050fps and for the most part am getting through and through wounds on my animals. This weekend was the final deal breaker that is forcing me to look for a new bullet to shoot. I shot a cow elk at ~200 yards quartering away. The bullet went in about mid chest cavity and went right out through the opposite shoulder (through the bone) like their was not even a bone there leaving failry small wound channel and the elk still running. The second shot was high back, just clipping the backbone and the elk was still moving. About 200 yards later it dropped. To cap it all off, there was not even a blood trail in the shin-deep snow we were in. Earlier this year, I shot a caribou at 360 yards with a 225 grain accubond out of my 338 Lapua. First shot was high back and went zipping right though. The Caribou did not even flinch. The second shot was quartering away, double lung and a shoulder. Same drill, small wound channel and the animal was still on its feet for over 30 seconds before it tipped over. Last year, my bro-in-law and I put 7 and 9 rounds (all accubonds) respectively into 2 mountain goats in Alaska at 375 yards and they just kept sucking up the bullets. Oh did I mention the bear I shot at 413 yards this year with the 300WM and 180 grain accubonds. Another quartering shot that the bullet zipped right though leaving a small wound channel and little blood trail. The bear rolled off the rock and I thought he was through. When I got down to the kill sight, all i found was a pissed of bear on his feet and ready to come at me. He lost his life to a face shot Am i being overly critical on the bullets and expecting way to much out of the terminal effects? Is this abnormal terminal effects for accubonds? What size of backside hole should I be seeing on average on these animals? I find it hard to believe that animals are still on their feet after having their off side should pounded by a 180 grainer, but I have seen it mutiple times over the last couple years. Any advise, comments, or discussion is more than welcome. Also potential recommendations for a new 180 grain bullet for the Win Mag.