target rifles for me and wife ?

jraulsten

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I've had most of the calibers mentioned at one time or another and recently put together a 6BR for PRS. Seems like a lot of the pros are going to 6BR and 6MM Dasher, etc. You can easily see what's going on down range, no problem shooting to 1000, and very easy to load for. Get some Lapua brass, CCI 450s, 105 Berger Hybrid Targets and Varget. All these items, with the exception of the primers, have been popping up frequently lately.
 

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We are looking at building target rifles to sharpen our shooting skills. I currently shoot a 6.5x284 and she shoots a Tika 3006for hunting. Want to build target specific rifles .We have a 600 yard range close to home when we retire next year would like to do some travel to places with longer ranges .Fairly new to reloading but plan on doing for this. Would like some suggestions on what you would build if you could for 600 and beyond. Ideally we would shoot the same caliber. So let's see what you would build.
6br and derivatives are great I have a 6bra.
6.5x47 and 6.5creed great options
But if I was building a pure target gun it would be a 284 combined with the 197smk. That bullet has a .4g7 and enough weight to help spot your own hits out to a mile
 

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This is why I went to 6XC over the 6BR. The BR is kinda limited to about 30 grains of powder. So it can't use slower powders.

This follows more than two years of developmental work on the 6XC cartridge by Norma. Case head hardness of the new 6XC brass will be on par with the best and hardest commercially-manufactured cartridge brass. Hardness is important for best use in a repeating rifle, especially one used for NRA High Power and Long Range competition. The Norma standard for body wall runout is .002 inches or less at the base of the case.

The new brass features a large rifle sized primer pocket. A detailed study of large and small rifle primers showed that large rifle primers worked best when the propellant charge exceeds 35 grains as is the case with the 6XC.

Pressure data indicates higher attainable velocities compared to a standard .243 Winchester cartridge. The 6XC attains these higher velocities with less propellant and lower pressures (superior case design is the reason).

The 6XC has dominated the across-the-course portion of the NRA High Power Rifle National Championships at Camp Perry as well as the NRA High Power Rifle Long Range events. Norma has high hopes for the 6XC as the next dominant ISU 300 Meter cartridge in Europe. Norma’s test shooter disclosed that his recent 6XC barrel had fired smaller groups than his previous ten 6BR barrels.

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This is why I went to 6XC over the 6BR. The BR is kinda limited to about 30 grains of powder. So it can't use slower powders.

This follows more than two years of developmental work on the 6XC cartridge by Norma. Case head hardness of the new 6XC brass will be on par with the best and hardest commercially-manufactured cartridge brass. Hardness is important for best use in a repeating rifle, especially one used for NRA High Power and Long Range competition. The Norma standard for body wall runout is .002 inches or less at the base of the case.

The new brass features a large rifle sized primer pocket. A detailed study of large and small rifle primers showed that large rifle primers worked best when the propellant charge exceeds 35 grains as is the case with the 6XC.

Pressure data indicates higher attainable velocities compared to a standard .243 Winchester cartridge. The 6XC attains these higher velocities with less propellant and lower pressures (superior case design is the reason).

The 6XC has dominated the across-the-course portion of the NRA High Power Rifle National Championships at Camp Perry as well as the NRA High Power Rifle Long Range events. Norma has high hopes for the 6XC as the next dominant ISU 300 Meter cartridge in Europe. Norma’s test shooter disclosed that his recent 6XC barrel had fired smaller groups than his previous ten 6BR barrels.

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Oh great......Now I'm going to have to get another rifle :D
 

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Oh great......Now I'm going to have to get another rifle :D
Yes, I know what you mean. Many years ago I bought a 30-378 with everything from a fellow competitor. I got tired of barrel replacement. Then I bought a 7STW wildcat before they became commercial. Age and time I went to 243 win. Then all these little 6mm cases came out and I researched and talked to people. Let the dust clear for a few years before betting on the new horse.

I've always liked Horse Power, where I can down load and still meet or exceed the FPS of the smaller volume cases. Barrel and case life goes way up running the slow powders with less pressure.

 

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I'm getting remaining parts and pieces together for a 6 Creedmoore build. Seriously thinking about putting it on the back burner and building a 224 Valkyrie. Thinking it would make a great practice rifle that would be cheap to shoot.
 

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what do you mean by target shooting paper or steel is this to improve your skills and gun handling for hunting ect. for steel out to 1000 6.5 creed, or 6.5 PRC if for bench work then build a benchrest in one of the 6mms
we have a small range close to home that has 600 yards can shoot steel or paper. Would be just for more trigger time to work on our form for hunting. If we retire next year would like to do some travel to places that have 1000 yards. Not sure want to get into competition. I used to tournament fish across the country. It was fun but kind of took the fun out of fishing. Don't want to take the fun out of our shooting.
 

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The beauty of 6XC or 243 win is that you can use it for hunting. My Antelope long range rifle is the .243 win. I've used the XC for varminting. I bought a few hundred nickel cases just for the fun of it. 46.4 grains Ramshot Hunter loaded to right at 3100 fps for ease of using ballistic tables. 26 inch barrel with 2 inch brake.

I have very few recovered bullets in my lifetime. Because they are always pass through. This DRT lasered 428 yard antelope Buck was walking away and then turned sideways. There was spray out the off side, but the bullet hit the far rib and was under the skin. It weighs 93.7 gr from the original 100 gr.
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Would be just for more trigger time to work on our form for hunting.
Then you want a straight 6BR that can be chambered with a no-turn neck. No fussing with fireforming, neck turning, and all the rest. Just load 'em up and shoot 'em. Nothing else will have as little recoil and be as precise shot after shot, which is what you are looking for. Also fairly inexpensive (compared to say a 6.5-284) because of the smaller powder capacity and smaller bullets.
Talk to your smith about what bullet/throat/twist/loading will work best. I shoot a 6DX, so I don't want to give you my loads; they would not be ideal in a straight BR. Prob stay in the 103 gr weight range.
 

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I haven't seen a 6BR yet that wouldn't shoot 105 Hybrid Targets with 30 grains of Varget. Makes it really easy......
So the 105 needs what, an 8 twist? 8.5? (I shoot 103 Hammers in mine, but with a 9 twist. Right on the edge of stability.) That makes it a real easy load, and a great practice setup that would even be competitive at 600, and usable at 1,000. Can't think of a better combo for the stated purpose.

The only option I can see is a 22LR to really work on technique. But with ammo being so unavailable, and rimfire lots shooting so weird, limit the range to 50 yards and try to put each round into the same hole.
 

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So the 105 needs what, an 8 twist? 8.5? (I shoot 103 Hammers in mine, but with a 9 twist. Right on the edge of stability.) That makes it a real easy load, and a great practice setup that would even be competitive at 600, and usable at 1,000. Can't think of a better combo for the stated purpose.

The only option I can see is a 22LR to really work on technique. But with ammo being so unavailable, and rimfire lots shooting so weird, limit the range to 50 yards and try to put each round into the same hole.
I'm shooting 28" M24 Bartlein with 7.5 twist.
 

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