Swift suroccos in gel

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  1. RockyMtnMT

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    Did the deer die quickly or travel a long ways? Where was the shot placement?
     
  2. fmsniper

    fmsniper Well-Known Member

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    What I found disheartening is they didn’t even open at 1900 ft./s retained velocity that was a little surprising. Also remember of these are bullets that I would not specifically use for long range these are bullets that you guys are asking us to test and we do appreciate that so thanks
     
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  3. Plinker147

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    High above the back of lungs liver area dropped in his tracks, had to hit some spine internally. He did flop around like a spine shot so I put another one in him through heart and lungs same distance. Both wound channels looked the same from outside, I did gutless so never looked inside.
     
  4. RockyMtnMT

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    Ok. So pretty hard to say what kind of damage was done.

    We shot quite a few elk and a few deer with that bullet from 6.5-06 at 3100 fps with excellent results. Nothing over 450y though.
     
  5. Plinker147

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    Can't say for sure but looking at entrance and exit, it was likely expansion was minimal.
     
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  6. Dry Heat?

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    The original Sciroccos shot PATTERNS out of my Win Model 70 in 7mm RM that shot Nosler, Barnes and Hornady Bullets Around 1/2 MOA, no matter what Powder combinations I tried. Then Swift came out with this Scirocco II Bullet but I had already wasted enough propellant on the first crappy version so I never tried them. I don’t feel I’m missing anything by doing so. I’ll never buy another Swift Bullet.
     
  7. fmsniper

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    Gents we dont use these it was a viewer who sent them to is to try
    We are hard core believers in Berger and Hornady
     
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  8. Golovkin

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    This is Jello - The bullet would have performed completely different on an animal.
     
  9. Bravo 4

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    Yeah I doubt that a medium to large game animal would have been DRT like that gel block was.:D

    Couldn’t resist...
     
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  10. Golovkin

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    Teeth are harder than bullets, but they can go right through regular jello, but after you add all the other ingredients, (hair, hide and bone) - they would perform way different!
     
  11. catamountsierra

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    Then why does wound channel I tend to see in the gelatin block tests seem so similar to what I see in a deer's or elk's heart and lungs after I shoot it? It may not be perfect, but it seems pretty representative. If you are worried about bone effects, put a big cow bone or such in the gelatin and see what happens then.
     
  12. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

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    If a bullet won't open on jello your SOL if you shoot one between the slats !!
     
  13. Golovkin

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    Not necessarily, a .17 caliber steel bb at 590 FPS penetrates 4.1" in clear ballistic gel.

    That same BB would bounce of a deer or elk.
     
  14. bigngreen

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    Well I've had a BB dug out of my person, penetrated better than we though it would through a sweet shirt and tee shirt.