Just in case anyone reads this and decides the z8's are not amazing, please bear in mind that Rich Coyle above has been repeating this otherwise un-beleivable swarovskireview everywhere I can find on the internet for a while. I love you buddy but you gotta admit it's you against the world on this one and generally when it seems like everyone else is nutz, it might be you.....I'm sure Coyle's a great and intelligent guy, but please understand that Ilya Koshkin and the rest of the known universe RAVES about the Z8's, not to mention most any and all Swaro glass in relation to their corresponding product peers as pretty much as good as it gets glass-wise. Please research this before making any purchase decisions, as it seems like important testimony but is 1 in about a gazillion people that would state, perceive, or express this opinion, that is that Z8's are somehow inferior to bushnell anything in Image Quality. It is, unequivocally, utter nonsense.
I don't like confrontation, NO COMMENTS PLEASE, Folks just do your research beyond this one opinion before plunking down your own cash. Rich you're awesome, thanks so much for all your swarovski comments, I don't want to argue, just to present another point of view.
FWIW I love my Swaro's, Nightforces, and old Bushnell 3500 and 4200's as well a my Sig Whiskey 3's! They are all tools and have their appropriate places in my tool box.
Also own a March 2.5-25x52 mtr-4, favorite reticle EVER.
Also own a March 5-42 Highmaster Wide Angle with Ilya's reticle. Love it, and I'm a Second focal plane kind of guy. Amazing amazing amazing pieces of gear. Just as are my Z8's...High Master Glass is the only thing that hangs with the Z8's, to me. Have not seen the Theta, at 28 ounces I actually love my NX8 4-32 F2, SFP kind of guy like I said.
The above is a statement. Read it, consider it, ignore it, hate it.....just don't respond to it. I'm not interested. Thank you. C
Posted by Koshkin ELEVEN YEARS AGO....Coyle's still going! Bravo dude!
"Apparently we need another thread on this.
To re-iterate for those who did not see the earlier thread on the subject.
Rich Coyle suffers from night blindedness, hence his eye pupils do not dilate very much. On top of that, it is very likely the the concentration of rods in his retina (I am guessing here, but it is an educated guess) is comparatively low, making his eyes less sensitive to certain wavelengths (blu-green spectrum, largely) that are prominent in low light conditions.
The results of his (any way flawed due to very different scope configurations) tests are only relevant for him.
For 99.9% per cent of the people out there, they are misleading, which is worse than useless.
Now, I am done with this argument.
That Swaro must have been really bad because I’ve had a Bushnell 4.5-30 6500 and that glass was junk anywhere past 25x.
I don't want to burst your bubble but I just returned one without mounting it. The way I check scopes is open them, adjust the reticle by putting the parallax on infinity, adjusting the magnification to max and thengetting the reticle as sharp as I can. Then I compare it to what I now have: A Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50. First let me say most scopes' glass do not match its clarity on the optics chart at 127 yards. Not even the Bushnell 6500 2 1/2-16X. I bought four and sold them because I am spoiled. Some that have better glass are March 2 1/2-25X52, Nightforce NSX 12-42X56, a Swarovski z6i 2.3-18X56, and a Schmidt & Bender 12-50X. I forgot its objective size. It was definitely the best, but the Nightforce was extremely good. Notable scopes that did not match it were four Swarovski z5 5-25X52 and a z6 5-30X50. Now I can add to the very long and growing list, of maybe fifty pages of notes, the Swarovski z8i 3.5-28X50. The Leupold VX-6 4-24 was slightly better than the Swarovskis that didn't make it and about the same as the Bushnell.
I really wanted the 3.5-28X50 to replace my Bushnell. But there is no way I will settle for a scope, at any price, that is not sharper on the chart than the Bushnell 6500. It looks like I will put a March on the new rifle. They are $700 or $800 cheaper so I guess I can use the savings on Hammer Bullets.