270 winchester will never die.. the best 6.5 ever was the 6.5 remington mag.. it needed a standard action and a long bbl. with this it will smoke all 6.5s except the 264 win mag. but it too did not make the cut.. Remington 7mm mag put them to rest.. a 270 winchester case with it long neck in the 6.5 will put all commerical 6.5s away. with the exception of the European 6.5 x 68 and their new 6.5 x65 which is a 6.5/06. one has to understand the 270 is a magnum without a belt and you cannot improve the 270. the longer neck allows for pressure in the magnum range.. If remington had loaded their 280 to 270 pressure there would be no 7 mm remington mag. but all this is good because they sell more rifles and we shooters have something to talk about. my go to long ranger is a 25" bbl remington 700 E R Shaw magnum bbl in 6.5/06 using 270brass trimed to 63mm.