SLOOW powders!!!

Randy in Va

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Doing research on powders slower than RE25.

I Found one I can find nothing about, Hogdon 570. Also Accurate 8700 and VV24N41. How can I learn the relative burn rates of powders? I know that VV24N41 is rated at 38 and the 50 powder VV20N29 is 36 (from VV Manual). Would love to find all listed with RE25 as the fastest!

Can anyone help?

Thanx
 

Brent

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Here you go Randy.

crow mag
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Member # 528 posted 01-31-2003 03:24 PM

Here is a chart From Fastest To Slowest

1. NORMA R1
2. Vihtavuori N310
3. Hodgdon TITEWAD
4. Alliant Red Dot
5. Hodgdon Clays
6. IMR, Co "HI-Skor" 700-X
7. Alliant Bullseye
8. Hodgdon TITEGROUP
9. Alliant American Select
10. Accurate Arms Solo 1000
11. Alliant Green Dot
12. Hodgdon International
13. IMR, Co PB
14. Vihtavuori N320
15. Winchester WST
16. Accurate Arms No. 2
17. IMR, Co SR 7625
18. Hodgdon HP-38
19. Winchester 231
20. Alliant Unique
21. Hodgbdon Universal
22. Alliant Power Pistol
23. Vihtavuori N330
24. Alliant Herco
25. Winchester WSF
26. Vihtavuori N340
27. IMR, Co "HI-Skor" 800-X
28. IMR, Co SR4756
29. Accurate Arms No. 5
30. Hodgdon HS-6
31. Vihtavuori 3N37
32. Vihtavuori N350
33. Hodgdon HS-7
34. Alliant Blue Dot
35. Accurate Arms No. 7
36. Hodgdon LONGSHOT
37. Alliant 2400
38. Accurate Arms No. 9
39. NORMA R123
40. Vihtavuori N110
41. Hodgdon LIL'GUN
42. Hodgdon H110
43. Winchester 296
44. IMR, Co. IMR4227
45. Hodgdon H4227
46. IMR, Co SR4759
47. Accurate Arms 1680
48. NORMA 200
49. Alliant Reloder 7
50. IMR, Co IMR4198
51. Hodgdon H4198
52. Vihtavuori N120
53. Hodgdon H322
54. Accurate Arms 2015 BR
55. Vihtavuori N130
56. IMR, Co IMR3031
57. Vihtavuori N133
58. Hodgdon BENCHMARK
59. Hodgdon H335
60. Vihtavuori N135
61. Accurate Arms 2230
62. Accurate Arms 2460
63. Hodgdon H4895
64. IMR, Co IMR4895
65. Alliant Reloder 12
66. IMR, Co IMR4320
67. Accurate Arms 2495BR
68. IMR, Co IMR4064
69. NORMA 202
70. Accurate Arms 2520
71. Alliant Reloder 15
72. Vihtavuori N140
73. Hodgdon VARGET
74. Winchester 748
75. Hodgdon BL-C(2)
76. Hodgdon H380
77. Winchester 760
78. Hodgdon H414
79. Vihtavuori N150
80. Accurate Arms 2700
81. IMR, Co IMR4350
82. Hodgdon H4350
83. Accurate Arms 4350
84. NORMA 204
85. Vihtavuori N550
86. Alliant Reloder 19
87. IMR, Co IMR4831
88. Accurate Arms 3100
89. Vihtavuori N160
90. Hodgdon H4831 & H4831 SC
91. NORMA MRP
92. Alliant Reloder 22
93. Vihtavuori N165
94. IMR, Co IMR7828
95. Vihtavuori N170
96. Hodgdon H1000
97. Alliant Reloder 25
98. Hodgdon Retumbo
99. Accurate Arms 8700
100. Hodgdon H870
101. Vihtavuori 24N41
102. Hodgdon H50BMG
103. Vihtavuori 20N29
[ 01-31-2003: Message edited by: crow mag ]

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That one posted fine.








The products listed below are those currently offered by each respective company. Products are in order of fast to slow burn rate.

Accurate Arms
Alliant
Hodgdon
IMR (more&#8595


Solo 1000
Nitro 100
Solo 1250
No. 2 Improved
No. 5
No. 7
No. 9
4100
1680
XMP-5744
XMR-2015
2230
2460
XMR-2495
2520
XMR-4064
2700
XMR-4350
XMR-3100
8700

Bullseye
Red Dot
American Select
Green Dot
Unique
Power Pistol
Herco
Blue Dot
Steel
2400
Reloder 7
Reloder 15
Reloder 19
Reloder 22
Reloder 25 TITEWAD
HP-38
CLAYS
INTERNATIONAL
TITEGROUP
UNIVERSAL
HS-6
LONGSHOT
HS-7
H110
LIL'GUN
H4227
H4198
H322
BENCHMARK
H4895
H335
VARGET
BL-C(2)
H380
H414
H4350
H4831
H4831SC
H1000
RETUMBO
H870
H50BMG 700-X
800-X
PB
SR 7625
SR 4756
SR 4759
IMR 4227
IMR 4198
IMR 3031
IMR 4064
IMR 4895
IMR 4320
IMR 4350
IMR 4831
IMR 7828
Nobel - Vectan
Norma
RamShot
Vihtavuori (more&#8595


Ba 10
As
A1
Ba9
Ao
Sp8
Sp3
Ba6
Tu 2000
Tu 3000
Sp10
Sp9
Sp7
Tu 5000
Tu 7000
Tu 8000 200
201
202
203B
204
MRP
MRP-2 COMPETITION
ZIP
SILHOUETTE
TRUE BLUE
ENFORCER
X-TERMINATOR
TAC
BIG GAME
MAGNUM
N310
N320
N330
N340
3N37
N350
N105
N110
N120
N130
N133
N135
N140
N540
N150
N555
N160
N560
N165
Winchester

231
296
748
760
WSF
WST
WXR


Hmmmmm???
 

Brent

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Accurate Arms

Solo 1000
Nitro 100
Solo 1250
No. 2 Improved
No. 5
No. 7
No. 9
4100
1680
XMP-5744
XMR-2015
2230
2460
XMR-2495
2520
XMR-4064
2700
XMR-4350
XMR-3100
8700


Alliant

Bullseye
Red Dot
American Select
Green Dot
Unique
Power Pistol
Herco
Blue Dot
Steel
2400
Reloder 7
Reloder 15
Reloder 19
Reloder 22
Reloder 25


Hodgdon

TITEWAD
HP-38
CLAYS
INTERNATIONAL
TITEGROUP
UNIVERSAL
HS-6
LONGSHOT
HS-7
H110
LIL'GUN
H4227
H4198
H322
BENCHMARK
H4895
H335
VARGET
BL-C(2)
H380
H414
H4350
H4831
H4831SC
H1000
RETUMBO
H870
H50BMG


IMR

700-X
800-X
PB
SR 7625
SR 4756
SR 4759
IMR 4227
IMR 4198
IMR 3031
IMR 4064
IMR 4895
IMR 4320
IMR 4350
IMR 4831
IMR 7828


Nobel - Vectan

Ba 10
As
A1
Ba9
Ao
Sp8
Sp3
Ba6
Tu 2000
Tu 3000
Sp10
Sp9
Sp7
Tu 5000
Tu 7000
Tu 8000


Norma

200
201
202
203B
204
MRP
MRP-2


RamShot

COMPETITION
ZIP
SILHOUETTE
TRUE BLUE
ENFORCER
X-TERMINATOR
TAC
BIG GAME
MAGNUM


Vihtavuori (more&#8595


N310
N320
N330
N340
3N37
N350
N105
N110
N120
N130
N133
N135
N140
N540
N150
N555
N160
N560
N165


Winchester

231
296
748
760
WSF
WST
WXR


That's the way it should read...
 

winmagman

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Brent, That's a very helpful list, Thanks. I'm looking to reload some 300 win mag rounds and was thinking of H-1000, H-4831, Reloader 22 or 25, any suggestions? (26" Barrel 190gr SMK.)
 

Brent

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I only loaded for mine for a short while before sending it off to be converted into the 30/338 Lapua Imp. I was using RL22 and 180 Scirocco's and getting under moa at 100 yards at 76.5gr and 3.520 OAL, .015" off the lands. Work up to this load though. I still have a bunch of 165gn and 150gr Scirocco's loaded up I never even got out to test.
 

Randy in Va

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BRENT, thanx for the special effort. Has anyone else seen the relevant burning rate published for this same group as I know the burning rate of VV slowest two is 36 and 38 for what I presume is a difference of 1/18th difference???

Familiar to anybody?

Thanx
 

T3-OleMan

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Some of us have powder that is 11 years old (or more) on the shelf.:D
I just bought a pound of rl25 at a lgs that said new on it; rl25 was new 'roundabouts '04.
Yep. Still got 5 cans, same lot, of the old WINCHESTER WMR that ain't even on the current Winchester burn list. Got it in 1992 and used 54.5gr in my 270 for the 140gr Black Talons. Them were the days......Government did not lie as much back then...LOL.:cool:
 

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Doing research on powders slower than RE25.

I Found one I can find nothing about, Hogdon 570. Also Accurate 8700 and VV24N41. How can I learn the relative burn rates of powders? I know that VV24N41 is rated at 38 and the 50 powder VV20N29 is 36 (from VV Manual). Would love to find all listed with RE25 as the fastest!

Can anyone help?

Thanx
Randy.....looks like most of your questions have been answered, so forgive me if this has already been covered. H570 is long gone and was an extruded powder with the same burning rate as H870, a ball powder, which was also discontinued a few years ago by Hodgdon. It is still available as military surplus and is marketed by Thunderbird cartridge co. in Az., under the name T870. It is a very good powder in the big magnums giving good accuracy, and top velocities in many cases. It is a pretty dirty powder; however. Hope this helps.......Rich
 

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