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<blockquote data-quote="Litehiker" data-source="post: 1102327" data-attributes="member: 54178"><p>What's the best bag liner? NONE</p><p></p><p>Sleeping bag liners are virtually useless for several reasons.</p><p></p><p>1. They give almost no added warmth unless they are bulky fleece liners.</p><p>2. They twist up around your body when you toss and turn in your sleep.</p><p>3. They are not a dual use item like long johns (<em>Multiple Use</em> is the key for keeping your pack weight lighter.</p><p></p><p>If you want to protect your sleeping bag from your sweat wear light, medium or heavy long johns, depending on the temperature. Then you have something you can also wear during the day if necessary. (But try to keep sleeping clothes for sleeping to keep them from getting stinky.)</p><p></p><p>BTW, NEVER use cotton liners or any cotton clothing in winter or rainy, cold weather. "COTTON KILLS" is the backpacker's byword. Use cotton only in desert conditions.</p><p></p><p>Experienced backpackers (those doing multi-week and multi-month trips) don't use liners because the weight-to-benefit ratio is poor.</p><p></p><p><strong>EXCEPTION: </strong>Vapor Barrier Liners (VBLs) are the one exception B/C they keep your sweat from accumulating in your bag over several nights. This accumulated body moisture decreases your bag's insulation drastically. It is the reason the first British South Pole expedition members froze to death before making it back to their base. Their bags became blocks of frozen down.</p><p></p><p>VBLs work best in sub zero weather or at least temps in the single digits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Litehiker, post: 1102327, member: 54178"] What's the best bag liner? NONE Sleeping bag liners are virtually useless for several reasons. 1. They give almost no added warmth unless they are bulky fleece liners. 2. They twist up around your body when you toss and turn in your sleep. 3. They are not a dual use item like long johns ([I]Multiple Use[/I] is the key for keeping your pack weight lighter. If you want to protect your sleeping bag from your sweat wear light, medium or heavy long johns, depending on the temperature. Then you have something you can also wear during the day if necessary. (But try to keep sleeping clothes for sleeping to keep them from getting stinky.) BTW, NEVER use cotton liners or any cotton clothing in winter or rainy, cold weather. "COTTON KILLS" is the backpacker's byword. Use cotton only in desert conditions. Experienced backpackers (those doing multi-week and multi-month trips) don't use liners because the weight-to-benefit ratio is poor. [B]EXCEPTION: [/B]Vapor Barrier Liners (VBLs) are the one exception B/C they keep your sweat from accumulating in your bag over several nights. This accumulated body moisture decreases your bag's insulation drastically. It is the reason the first British South Pole expedition members froze to death before making it back to their base. Their bags became blocks of frozen down. VBLs work best in sub zero weather or at least temps in the single digits. [/QUOTE]
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