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<blockquote data-quote="Frog4aday" data-source="post: 1799719" data-attributes="member: 9308"><p>I'm voting Beretta A300 Outlander. It will offer the best balance in your hands, the 'proper' weight for a light 12 ga (7.25lbs), and best value for your money. The gas system will soften recoil. The stock is adjustable. The build quality is very good. You won't ever be disappointed with it. The reliability alone (after years with an 1100 and 11-87) sold me on it. Some 3.5" guns 'struggle' to reliably cycle 7/8 ounce skeet loads. That doesn't work for me. The A300 will cycle everything fine.</p><p></p><p>I can hear it now: <em><u>"But it can't handle 3.5" shells"</u></em></p><p>Let's talk the "need" for a 3.5" capable 12ga gun...THERE ISN'T ANY. Not anymore. I have a 12 ga with 3.5" chambers and will never fire another one of those shells through it. The recoil is ferocious <u>and</u> I hit BETTER with the 2.75" mag or 3" shells, so the extra payload and punishment of the longer shell buys me nothing. The 3.5" 12ga. was introduced when we got 'stuck' with steel shot and people were trying to figure out how to make the 12ga "as effective" as it was before the lead ban. Adding more shot volume with the longer shell was the band-aid fix developed.</p><p></p><p>Now we have bismuth-tin shot, tungsten-matrix shot, tungsten-iron shot, and "hevi-shot" {tungsten-nickle-iron}, all of which brings back our 'normal' 12 gauge effectiveness WITHOUT having to use that heavy kicking 3.5" shell anymore. My advice? Don't worry about getting a 3.5" capable gun. You won't need it. Plenty of good options now in the shot-shell dept to make it obsolete.</p><p></p><p>Good luck with whatever choice you pick. As long as YOU love it, it will be the right decision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frog4aday, post: 1799719, member: 9308"] I'm voting Beretta A300 Outlander. It will offer the best balance in your hands, the 'proper' weight for a light 12 ga (7.25lbs), and best value for your money. The gas system will soften recoil. The stock is adjustable. The build quality is very good. You won't ever be disappointed with it. The reliability alone (after years with an 1100 and 11-87) sold me on it. Some 3.5" guns 'struggle' to reliably cycle 7/8 ounce skeet loads. That doesn't work for me. The A300 will cycle everything fine. I can hear it now: [I][U]"But it can't handle 3.5" shells"[/U][/I] Let's talk the "need" for a 3.5" capable 12ga gun...THERE ISN'T ANY. Not anymore. I have a 12 ga with 3.5" chambers and will never fire another one of those shells through it. The recoil is ferocious [U]and[/U] I hit BETTER with the 2.75" mag or 3" shells, so the extra payload and punishment of the longer shell buys me nothing. The 3.5" 12ga. was introduced when we got 'stuck' with steel shot and people were trying to figure out how to make the 12ga "as effective" as it was before the lead ban. Adding more shot volume with the longer shell was the band-aid fix developed. Now we have bismuth-tin shot, tungsten-matrix shot, tungsten-iron shot, and "hevi-shot" {tungsten-nickle-iron}, all of which brings back our 'normal' 12 gauge effectiveness WITHOUT having to use that heavy kicking 3.5" shell anymore. My advice? Don't worry about getting a 3.5" capable gun. You won't need it. Plenty of good options now in the shot-shell dept to make it obsolete. Good luck with whatever choice you pick. As long as YOU love it, it will be the right decision. [/QUOTE]
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