Setting up a scope square?

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by skip AI, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. joep17

    joep17 Well-Known Member

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    And I think the price is very reasonable for the quality of the product.
     
  2. 26Reload

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    I have also mounted a lot of scopes...I went to the wheeler levels...if the piece for the action doesn't fit inside the feedrails l remove the bolt and try the rear portion...just make sure you have good contact on each side....
    I hope to put this part of gun service in my boys hands...he helped with the last three just recently...and if some other tools improve I am sure he can get a handle on it...
     
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  3. joep17

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    Are you using the first generation 26Reload?
    With the second gen, I use the scope base and barrel clamp level to get the level first. Then put the level on the turret and match it to the barrel clamp. Quickest and most precise system I have come across. If something better comes out I will buy that too.

    Glad you are teaching your boy! That is how our sport will thrive with the next generation
     
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    I use a really big plumb bob...I run 1/2ā€ rope over a tree limb about 25 feet in the air. I then tie a 15 lb dumbbell too it and suspend about 6ā€ off the ground. I then go back to my shooting bench 150 yds away and sight through the scope with bipod in front of gun and good bag supporting rear. I use the kmw podlock on the Harris bipod to set the gun to level. From here I simply line the vertical on the rope (can see the entire vertical cross hair splitting the rope on 18x), tighten rings very slowly in criss cross pattern and check again when the torque wrench me pops over on all screws. If good, I install a bubble level on my scope tube in front of elevation turret for reference and Iā€™m good to go. This method had been dead nuts every time.
     
  5. 26Reload

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    Yes..first generation...I've had it about 10 years....
    little quirks with it...but far better than an eyeball with glasses....after setting the scope I turn on a red dot lazer flashlite and shine it onto neighbors barn wall at 60 yards...set reticles from there...always hitting paper really close first shots....at the range..not the barn...
    Thinking about it...with all the smiths and toolers..why can't a person make a device to adjust between the horizontal adjustment and the action of the rifle....each would be slightly different measurements but would align the horizontal to the action way faster than levels or eyeballs...
     
  6. Varmint Hunter

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    The rifle must be level before you can do much else but how is this accomplished? Some guys put a level on the scope base, some on the scope cap, some across the raceway and there are several other methods that I've heard. of
    It seems to me that a leveled rifle must have the centerline of the scope directly over the centerline of the barrel. I have used the Brownells tool which is designed to do this. At the same time I put a level across the raceway for confirmation and found that they weren't even close. Put another level across the pic base and you just might find that it's out too.
    It's hard to determine when the rifle is truly level even when using the tools designed to achieve a level rifle. Rotating a scope to get the reticle level is rather easy if you could only assure the the rifle was in exactly the correct position before you try.

    BTW - Using the stock to determine level as indicated in my 2006 post proved to be a terrible idea. More modern tools proved that.
     
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  8. 26Reload

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    I start by centering my reticle in the scopes...
    I use leupold bases with the rear adjustment screws...on all...
    Make sure the rings are centered to each other nice as can be...
    Lie the scope in position to see if the front needs adjustment...
    Lightly tighten top ring into position...
    Adjust eyepiece for field of view forward & backward...
    Make sure action is level in the holder...
    Tighten screws...
    Adjust rear base screw to horizontal...
    Set verticle to beginning height...
    Simple as pie.....
     
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  9. r7s

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    I much prefer the EXD Engineering device to either of the Wheeler units because it directly aligns the scope objective bell with the barrel. You level the bubble which means your scope is directly vertical over the barrel, then adjust the scope vertical reticle to your plumb bob. It requires two additional items, a plumb bob and a rubber band.

    The Brownells link above in post 22 is still good, but unfortunately the review link is dead. Here is a rough sketch I found that illustrates how it works:

    http://www.neconos.com/details4.htm
     
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  10. 26Reload

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    Leupold has one...bore sighted and scope hair alignment...
    I believe it also measures the height of the crosshairs from center of bore...which is a measurment you need for long range ballistics...
     

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    I did this the same way with my buddies wheeler set. Worked perfectly.
     
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