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<blockquote data-quote="PRCLITE" data-source="post: 2092811" data-attributes="member: 77124"><p>I am well aware of the energy required to ethically kill an elk according to "?". The funny thing is ten years ago the numbers were claimed to be at a minimum 1000ft/lb for elk and 800ft/lb for deer. Somewhere along the line, the numbers were boosted up to 1500/1000 even though the ammunition got better and inherently more accurate calibers were introduced. I realize the 30 cal crowd will throw a tantrum for anyone attempting large game shots with anything less than what they feel comfortable with. I am not saying they are wrong, but the point they make does not cover everyone or every situation. I've seen more whitetail run away from 300WM and 7mmMag than 308's, 270's, 243's. It is all about shot placement and confidence. I'm not saying it's a wise idea to take a shot on an elk with a 6.5PRC at 1500y but I think people get a little crazy about the claims of needing cannons for animals. I am extremely confident in myself and my rifle. I have not lost an animal due to poor judgement yet and I don't plan on setting records on an elk with my rifle. That being said, I'm also not going to take any **** from anyone about my caliber choice. There are two different beliefs here and both arguments hold water - to each their own. My opinion is that accuracy trumps energy. One of the situations I witnessed was a hunter who was a friend of a friend carrying around his 300 UltraMag for whitetail. He set up on a deer at 430+ yards and missed the first shot. The deer didn't move and he fired again only to hit the deer in the hind quarter which basically all but blew the deer's leg off. The deer rolled down into the brush and bled out. Sure he got the kill but wasted the meat, the animal suffered, and his need for carrying a large overpowering caliber was justified because with a 243 or 6.5CM the deer would've most likely walked away from that incident. My argument is that no matter the caliber, shot placement is king.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PRCLITE, post: 2092811, member: 77124"] I am well aware of the energy required to ethically kill an elk according to "?". The funny thing is ten years ago the numbers were claimed to be at a minimum 1000ft/lb for elk and 800ft/lb for deer. Somewhere along the line, the numbers were boosted up to 1500/1000 even though the ammunition got better and inherently more accurate calibers were introduced. I realize the 30 cal crowd will throw a tantrum for anyone attempting large game shots with anything less than what they feel comfortable with. I am not saying they are wrong, but the point they make does not cover everyone or every situation. I've seen more whitetail run away from 300WM and 7mmMag than 308's, 270's, 243's. It is all about shot placement and confidence. I'm not saying it's a wise idea to take a shot on an elk with a 6.5PRC at 1500y but I think people get a little crazy about the claims of needing cannons for animals. I am extremely confident in myself and my rifle. I have not lost an animal due to poor judgement yet and I don't plan on setting records on an elk with my rifle. That being said, I'm also not going to take any **** from anyone about my caliber choice. There are two different beliefs here and both arguments hold water - to each their own. My opinion is that accuracy trumps energy. One of the situations I witnessed was a hunter who was a friend of a friend carrying around his 300 UltraMag for whitetail. He set up on a deer at 430+ yards and missed the first shot. The deer didn't move and he fired again only to hit the deer in the hind quarter which basically all but blew the deer's leg off. The deer rolled down into the brush and bled out. Sure he got the kill but wasted the meat, the animal suffered, and his need for carrying a large overpowering caliber was justified because with a 243 or 6.5CM the deer would've most likely walked away from that incident. My argument is that no matter the caliber, shot placement is king. [/QUOTE]
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