SCHOOLS- no longer soft targets

[aldeerhunter]

I agree CKg. Problem is that the agitators' solution to the problem is to curtail our rights, rather than to deal with the mentally ill.

Secure the schools and the crazy person shoots up a mall, or a church or the beach. The solution— take my guns. Geniuses.

 

[7stw]

I agree CKg. Problem is that the agitators' solution to the problem is to curtail our rights, rather than to deal with the mentally ill.

Secure the schools and the crazy person shoots up a mall, or a church or the beach. The solution— take my guns. Geniuses.

Yeah, that'll fix it!

 

[Riflehunter1776]

I call BS on this hip hop caused violence theory. Why not blame Mat Dillon, John Wayne or Chuck Coonnors? They pulled guns and killed on a regular basis and this was way before hip hop. Yet some are quick to say hearing hip hop has more of an influence than seeing this glorified killing on TV.

it is passed time that we secure our schools. Plain and simple. Try going into a federal court house with a gun and see how that works out for you. If we can secure courthouses we can secure schools. It may cost but it is past time to get started.

On another note, I have no problem with kids speaking out on this issue. They are kids and I don't necessarily expect them to be coherent. I know they can be easily manipulated into echoing somebody's agenda. No big deal.

It is entertaining to see how many of you trust the government to teach your children religion, while at the same time seem to be balking on the government teaching your kids about gun control.

I couldn't care less about John Wayne, but I find it interesting that someone would equate violent, profane music which kids look at a a "lifestyle" that glorifies murder, gang wars, prostitutes, and crime with old movies about good guys using force to neutralize bad guys. I guess that's a good example of moral relativism.

Also, it is entertaining that you would take the time to develop a straw man argument that claims I think the government should be "teaching your children religion" when in fact my point was unambiguous that public schools should not be attacking the Christian religion on a frequent basis.

 

[Riflehunter1776]

So this sums up the fact that now not only Ar15's need to go but shotguns and revolvers......But then wait.... also this weekend in North Carolina a man drives his jeep through a restaurant running over his own family. A quote in the article says he was suffering from Mental illness, and had taken precautions, like having all guns removed from his home. I thought if we could just ban guns there wouldn't be a problem? The American People don't want to dig down to the root cause of issues, and solve them.....

By all means protect our Schools, but we also need to start dealing with the mentally ill people that are living around us. Today's hero's that kids look up to are a far cry from the heros of old who stood up to evil, and yes killed in some cases........

Absolutely right. The left put the "handgun battle" on the back burner for now, but they've been after that since the 60's. If they can win control of Congress and start passing bans on semi rifles, the next target will be handguns again. Then shotguns and finally hunting rifles. The object has always been removing guns; "safety" is just a slogan they use as part of their virtue signaling. If they wanted kids to be safe, they'd have adequately trained and armed people protecting them from all the dangers which are out there. Matter of fact, I had a conversation with a teacher today. I mentioned the idea of well-vetted, well armed ex-military guards at schools. The response was predictable: horror, indignation, and the screwy comment "what would happen if they started having flashbacks!!?!"

 

[Deleted member 48126]

I have an issue with kids speaking up when adults actually start listening to them.

Rap music is crap. Glorifies hookers, drugs, pimps, killing, "Gats", and getting money anyway necessary. When kids on the street hear it, they follow that path since they think it will make them a famous rapper as well. The school shooters may not have been influenced by it, but go to the next neighborhood over in your town and ask those kids on the corner. I'm sure you'll be surprised how easily influenced by rap they are. Also those neighborhoods are the ones with the constant gang activity and drivebys. We have 10,000 active MS13 gang members from South America in the United States right now and we are told that guns are the issue??

Lastly, I've said it before and it's been mentioned several times in this thread, but the news is cancer. It is literally the divide in America. It puts poisonous extreme left or right values in people's heads and if you sway any where from their extreme you're a bad person. It's absolutely ridiculous. If guns are regulated, speech needs to be regulated since it is clearly far more dangerous.

 

[Ckgworks]

Totally agree on the music glorifying everything that is wrong....killing, beating women, drugs, taking what you want, etc. Combined with little to no discipline, Parents who are more concerned about their own lives than their childrens, violent images everywhere you look. These people are making alot of money doing absolutely nothing, and a huge percentage of the American youth look up to them, and want to follow in their steps. There are kids in middle school that their own parents can't control, and yet seem to think they are just going through a stage, and put the blinders on......I dread to think of them as teenagers. Another parent just put second graders back in pull ups because they won't stop playing video games to go to the bathroom. I really wish I was making this up, but it's reality on the left coast. No one can seem to find the line between discipline and child abuse. This garbage in our youth started at a very young age with parenting. My father had a heavy hand when it came to discipline, and I can look back and say I wouldn't have wanted it any other way!

 

[Riflehunter1776]

Just on the topic of schools and "gun free zones" I saw this video the other day. A thug begins to rob some women who are in front of a school with their children. One of the women was armed.



Now imagine yourself being in a similar situation, dropping your kid off at school and a guy with a drawn gun comes walking up, aiming at you and your kid. Here in the states, you or I would be in a "gun free zone" in that situation, and if we were to shoot the guy, there's a good chance we would face prosecution - in some states almost certainly.

 

[MudRunner2005]

How did we get here? From cussing,fighting, and bloody noses to killing ones class mates. Guns, knives, bombs, cars, and trucks have always been around. A news organization said it was second generation immigrants that were to blame. Another theory the internet. And another video games. These with their total disrespect for life. Maybe the break down of the family and the church? The train is off the track. It's time to put it back on.

Yep... ******, lazy, indifferent, and selfish parents is what has caused most of this. They are too busy with their own lives to be "bothered" with being involved in their kids' lives. They just buy them whatever they want so they'll leave them alone and go away, and stop bothering them while they're trying to secretly cheat on their spouse, play on fakebook or twatter, or trying to make an extra buck to get that certain contract, by working themselves to death 24/7 bending over for their bosses.

So yes, you are absolutely correct. The break-down of the family unit, the societal push to demonize and marginalize Christianity and religion in general (notice I didn't say CULTS, because they sure try to push Islam pretty hard). And the government acting like the father-figure, and letting the liberal brainwashing douchebag teachers raise their kids and teach them all THEIR whacked-out liberal/left/commie/socialist ideals, is what has caused this.

 

[CaptnC]

This is my take on it, could be totally, all wet, but here goes.
I believe, as a few others have mentioned, that when corporal punishment was abolished, that was the beginning of the end.
Secondly, when the video games came on the scene, they replaced some psrents, and parenting skills, and became babysitters. And very unfortunately, teachers.
In our schools, they've even modified the Pledge of Alligence, and football players take a knee, when the National Anthem is played!!######!!!!
Where, how, and why is all we can come up with, and no good answers.
Then, we have the new regime, that will be our new leaders, that havent developed , or dont even know what a work ethic is!
Don't know where it started, but it needs to change, or life as we have come to know, will be a thing of the past!
News Flash!

This is pretty close to word for word what I say everyday!

I graduated in 1979...west side of Houston...we carried guns to school everyday. We used to work on them in either metal shop or wood shop (I took every course they had in both) and no one shot each other! There was plenty of bad blood between guys, but no one thought to shoot each other!

I work for a school district, the same one I graduated from, and to hear the stories from our campus police, teachers and bus drivers...no one should be surprised at the actions of these kids!

ZERO respect for a person of authority! ZERO!

My metal shop teacher could buckle your knees with a paddle. A custom made job he made himself. Three tardiness and you got one "pop"...I was only late to his shop class three times. Even though I was one of his top students, he didn't hold back. It was all I could do to keep my feet under me!

We hunted and fished together until he died a few years ago...one of my best friends for life!

I bet you can't find a story like that in school today!

 

[MudRunner2005]

My wife says the same thing! why are men always betrayed as imbeciles in our society.( like your examples)

It's much much much more sinister than you can even imagine. It's a 3rd wave feminist agenda to push feminism to show that women are strong and don't need men, by making men look dumb, stupid, and like sexist neanderthals that only want to do stupid things, drink, and hump.

Here's the sinister part of it....

Also, if you notice, at ALL of the femimist marches they push for Islam and Sharia Law...And are being led by evil murderous women like Linda Sarsour (however you spell it). This is all 100% by design under Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 (which is a globalist and NWO/Illuminati plan...Think Soros, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, The Royal Family, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Ted Turner, the Bush's, etc...), and it is their way to depopulate the earth, mainly the white christian race in the civilized parts of the world, so they can bring in goat-humper rapists from the middle-east claiming they're "refugees", to wipe out the white population, so white feminist women will breed with the browns (because it's their way of virtue-signaling to them because of their fake white-guilt they were taught to have) inadvertently ethnociding the entire white race from the face of the earth.

This is all part of the same group of tactics that RifleHunter1776 was referring to. It's all one HUGE agenda. It's called Agenda 2030... Look it up. You'll think it's conspiracy (which it IS...It is most certainly being conspired by the E.U. and the U.N.), but they have already completed Agenda 21 a couple years back, and they're on their way to push forward for the next one. It's gonna get bad if we don't find a way to shut the MF'ers down...Whether that is by idealogical force or physical... Shutting it down needs to happen, and quickly, to save our country and our futures.

 

[MudRunner2005]

I call BS on this hip hop caused violence theory. Why not blame Mat Dillon, John Wayne or Chuck Coonnors? They pulled guns and killed on a regular basis and this was way before hip hop. Yet some are quick to say hearing hip hop has more of an influence than seeing this glorified killing on TV.

it is passed time that we secure our schools. Plain and simple. Try going into a federal court house with a gun and see how that works out for you. If we can secure courthouses we can secure schools. It may cost but it is past time to get started.

On another note, I have no problem with kids speaking out on this issue. They are kids and I don't necessarily expect them to be coherent. I know they can be easily manipulated into echoing somebody's agenda. No big deal.

It is entertaining to see how many of you trust the government to teach your children religion, while at the same time seem to be balking on the government teaching your kids about gun control.

I don't trust the government to teach anybody anything, except how to be corrupt and kick the population while they're already down. Even Ronald Reagan once said the 9 scariest words he can think of were "We're from the government, and we're here to help."

Also, I'm a Christian, but not overly religious... But I will tell you this, if any of yall are catholic (I am NOT)... You'd better stop following the pope. He's a perverted prophet wolf in sheep's clothing, leading yall straight into the wolf's den. In the last 2 years, he's said Trump was bad, Islam was good, and that there is no hell... The man is a false-prophet trying to lead your soul to the dark side. Do not follow him there...He will burn in hell as it is. Never trust your relationship with Christ to an intermediary. Your relationship with Christ is between YOU and GOD...That's it!

 

[MudRunner2005]

Just on the topic of schools and "gun free zones" I saw this video the other day. A thug begins to rob some women who are in front of a school with their children. One of the women was armed.



Now imagine yourself being in a similar situation, dropping your kid off at school and a guy with a drawn gun comes walking up, aiming at you and your kid. Here in the states, you or I would be in a "gun free zone" in that situation, and if we were to shoot the guy, there's a good chance we would face prosecution - in some states almost certainly.

She shot, then took active-cover behind the car, while still keeping her weapon pointed and ready for round 2, because he still had the gun in his hand and hadn't dropped it yet. Smart woman! I give her 2 thumbs-up for that one! One less *** thug in the streets, even if it is in another country.

 

[aldeerhunter]

You are looking at the world with blinders on. Sure you don't care because John WYne and MATT Dillon are your heroes and speak your preferred vernacular. Profane is also a relative word. Rappers certainly did not come up with the idea of picking up a gun every time you tangled with someone. Rappers did not come up with the profession of prostitution or robbing banks . Last I checked, rappers were not around when all of those "**** Indians" were murdered, raped and had their land stolen. Get the picture?All of this you saw on tv regularly way before rap music was around. Yet you want to blame rap music for the woes of the world. If the concern was for public demonstrations of violence, the demonstrations started long before hip hop or rap music. Like hundreds of years before. It is just more relevant to you when the focus of the violence is directed towards you, rather than Indians or Blacks.

MudRunner2005 hit the nail on the head. Read his post and open your eyes. The root of the problem lies in the breakdown of the home, family and family values, not in what type of music a person listens to, or movies that he watches.

I couldn't care less about John Wayne, but I find it interesting that someone would equate violent, profane music which kids look at a a "lifestyle" that glorifies murder, gang wars, prostitutes, and crime with old movies about good guys using force to neutralize bad guys. I guess that's a good example of moral relativism.

Also, it is entertaining that you would take the time to develop a straw man argument that claims I think the government should be "teaching your children religion" when in fact my point was unambiguous that public schools should not be attacking the Christian religion on a frequent basis.[/

I couldn't care less about John Wayne, but I find it interesting that someone would equate violent, profane music which kids look at a a "lifestyle" that glorifies murder, gang wars, prostitutes, and crime with old movies about good guys using force to neutralize bad guys. I guess that's a good example of moral relativism.

Also, it is entertaining that you would take the time to develop a straw man argument that claims I think the government should be "teaching your children religion" when in fact my point was unambiguous that public schools should not be attacking the Christian religion on a frequent basis.

 

[Riflehunter1776]

You are looking at the world with blinders on. Sure you don't care because John WYne and MATT Dillon are your heroes and speak your preferred vernacular. Profane is also a relative word. Rappers certainly did not come up with the idea of picking up a gun every time you tangled with someone. Rappers did not come up with the profession of prostitution or robbing banks . Last I checked, rappers were not around when all of those "**** Indians" were murdered, raped and had their land stolen. Get the picture?All of this you saw on tv regularly way before rap music was around. Yet you want to blame rap music for the woes of the world. If the concern was for public demonstrations of violence, the demonstrations started long before hip hop or rap music. Like hundreds of years before. It is just more relevant to you when the focus of the violence is directed towards you, rather than Indians or Blacks.

MudRunner2005 hit the nail on the head. Read his post and open your eyes. The root of the problem lies in the breakdown of the home, family and family values, not in what type of music a person listens to, or movies that he watches.

You obviously have some bizarre personal vendetta against me, since you are ignoring 7 or 8 other people who are also discussing that trash music. Furthermore, rather than address anything I am saying about the destruction of society's values, you are creating one straw man argument after another, talking about John Wayne, and clumsily trying to reframe my comments to suit your little argument.

typically I ignore trolls with reading comprehension problems who deliberately go out of their way to start internet ****ing matches, but in this case I could make an exception.



Actually, no. Ignore.