agreed but im also seeing long range hunters trending toward light weight rigs these days. Many are able to do so with skinnier barrels that still shoot tight 3-5 shot groups, some are doing it with very light weight stocks and heavy barrel flutes, and others are doing so with carbon fiber wrapped barrels. If I ever get back to longer range than I am today I don't think id ever go back to rifles over 7.5lbs (not including optics of course). Id rather save for a proof barrel setup or just buy a medium contoured steel barrel with flutes. Ill never go back to light varmint or thicker.Good point. Wouldn't also make sense a short barrel and non-tactical scope would be warranted? Savage makes the light weight storm that is 5.5lbs and with a light 3x10 type scope should be 6.5 lbs or less ready to go. It seems on the long range shooters benefit from longer barrels, little heavier rifles, and heaver tactical scopes. Since this is a long range page, I always assume people are hunting with long range in mind.