Same old question + a couple I haven\'t seen.-Rifle and caliber? I have been shooting rifles for may years. Both for hunting and for the simple enjoyment. From 22LR to 300 Weatherby. There is one trend that I see(that works in my favor in campfire betting) that I just don't understand: Why so many people that can't shoot in the first place, over gun themselves. Last deer season, I out shot: on paper and in the field, peaople with the latest mag. The worst part of the entire story is that almost all of our parties shots are from 25-400 yards max. I can consistently out shoot them with my 30-30 out to 200, and my .260 out past 300. Besides ads, why do people feel the need for an over powered rifle at these ranges? Oh, the point of this post. I am building my first rifle. I am looking for just a 500yd rifle, which is nothing compared to some of the posts I see. I can get a Savage 10FP for under $400, a used Remington 700(short or long action) for under $350, or a SAKO action for under $500(those SAKOS are soooo smooth). Anyone of these rifles will be a building block for a custon rifle. Which would you pick? Now for the caliber. I think of things a little bit differently than most. I see a short action as a builing block for the new Winchester Super Short Mag.(6.5,7, or .308 caliber) with heavy bullets. The long action gives you the potential to use any short mag with heavier bullets(or a .260,7mm/08,.308) without taking up powder space. Am I wrong here? The bottum line is I want the best performance to hurt(recoil) ratio available. Like I said this is the first(and first post) rifle I will be putting together, so any suggestions are helpful.