Round counts in Firearms for sale.....

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ScottB, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. ScottB

    ScottB Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2010
    Has anyone else ever noticed that no one seems to shoot their rifles.....

    Seems every rifle I look at in the classifieds are always, "I only put 10 rounds through her." or "Bought this as a secondhand back-up rifle, first owner only took it out of the safe on Thursday mornings during full moons and I put 7 rounds down the barrel to sight-in, but it shot a .020-inch 5-shot group at 400yards!"
    You never see the ad that goes, "I shot the crap out it and haven't cleaned this barrel since it was installed by the factory.....there might not be any rifling actually left in the barrel, but I still think it's value is at least 12times what I paid for it."

    This isn't limited to this forum, I see it at absolutely every forum that there is a classified section, so don't get ya'll feathers ruffled's everywhere!

  2. Kevin Thomas

    Kevin Thomas Well-Known Member

    Feb 16, 2009
    Okay, that's good for a chuckle! Take it one step further and see how many sellers react to a borescope the way Dracula does to a cross.

    Kevin Thomas
    Lapua USA
  3. Aldon

    Aldon Well-Known Member

    Sep 4, 2009
    Agreed but short of bore scoping at time of sale, most would not truely know the status of the barrel.

    You can toast one quickly with not too many rounds if the chamber is not tight, the loads are really hot or if they string too many shots one after the other....

    So when buying used I assume that the gun will be minute of deer and most are that I have picked up used.

    If your buying a custom rig, I would only purchase used ones from those whom I have some level of trust in.
  4. ScottB

    ScottB Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2010

    Or maybe with an agreed upon inspection period?

    Would have to say, most people could remember the difference between 20 rounds down the pipe and 4,000 though. And we are in total agreement with the hot loads, multiple fast firings, and a few other things that'll eat a barrel.

    Anyone else notice this? Feel free to chime in!

  5. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2008
    I've actually bought a couple take of barrels that just wouldn't shoot for next to no dollars. I take and clean them out to the metal, which usually takes some JB paste to cut the carbon and I find a perfectly good barrel that just needs cleaned, crowned and shot!
  6. silvertip-co

    silvertip-co Well-Known Member

    Jun 20, 2007
    most of the stuff for sale aint wore out, its hardly used. these guys build or buy these big fancy rifles then find they have no time or no money to shoot them or "it made an owie on my shoulder" and then they sell them barely used. same thing happens here in CO when the eastern and CA millionaires build these 25,000 sq ft log homes back in the wilderness then find out they have no time to use the places or dont care to have the 17 FEET of snow they get in the backcountry plowed out daily so the mansions sit empty for years...
  7. Buffalobob

    Buffalobob Well-Known Member

    Jun 12, 2001
    That has been my experience on occasion. Lot of people simply don't know much about guns and what makes them shoot well. Back in 1972 I bought a used custom varmint rifle and cleaned on it after work for two days and finally got it to where I could see the rifling in the throat. After that groups went under 0.5 MOA

    My experience is that the round count is about what the guy says. Bought an XP100-R off a guy on this forum. Gun came from the factory with a problem that nobody had noticed and I found it and fixed it. Gun now groups under 1 MOA with 130 gr Berger VLDs and I used it to kill an antelope at 501 yards.

  8. mo

    mo Well-Known Member

    Mar 5, 2006
    I figure most custom rifles have been shot quiet a few times, and would assume that when I bought one. In this area where I live I bet 90% of the rifles at the local pawn shop has less then 125 rounds down the tube. All my friends will come to my house shoot a target at 200 yards two or three times, and kill 3 deer a year for a total of 5 shots a year. Then they sell it 3 years later., and still have a 5 rounds left from the only box of bullets they bought.
  9. MSU Marksman

    MSU Marksman Well-Known Member

    Jul 15, 2007
    When I buy firearms online I take location into account.

    For instance, I would never buy a varmint rifle from a state that allows prarie dog shooting, regardless of what the seller claims the round count to be.

    But I'll also admit that I'm one of the ones who has more time to dream about shooting than to actually get out and shoot. I've got a safe queen Rem 700 VLS 260 that I have only put 87 rounds through in the last 6 years because I've had more fun playing with my other rifles.
  10. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2001
    I've noticed the same thing and always wondered ???????

    So here is an opposite ad:

    I've got a 21" #3 contour Hart .221FB barrel for sale. It has aprox 700 rounds down the tube and I'll give a 3 day inspection & return guarantee.


    The ad is legit and it's mine if anyone is interested. :D
  11. 375fan

    375fan Well-Known Member

    May 3, 2010
    Have bought 2 used rifles off of forums. One is my main hunting rifle the last 2 years, super accurate, finely tuned. Seller said it was sitting in his safe and hadn't shot it much, I believe him.
    Other rifle seller said he was second owner, rifle(M70 300rum wanted to rebarrel to 338rum, haven't got to that) is in excellent shape, haven't shot it myself, bought it for a project, am sure it will shoot, seller is pretty reputable.
    Have bought 2 new rifles over the years off the net and they were as advertised.