Rotator Cuff

Doublezranch

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Point is, you are you, not a statistic. Establish a relationship with a surgeon of good repute and listen to the options. Make a slow deliberate decision. Get other opinions if necessary.
This is sound advice!

I have the privilege of working with and am a good friend with my shoulder surgeon. He knew what I wanted, we agreed on what I needed, and we were a success together.
 

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I am not a bow hunter but for therapy on my shoulder I bought a recurve bow with 40lb limbs to start my therapy than as time passed I bought extra limbs with 45,50 and 55lbs limbs. This method of therapy for me has helped my shoulder. The other set of limbs are not pictured. Good luck.
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Remember, You draw a bow with your back, not your arms. Let it heal and do your exercises. Then pull the weight down and start flinging arrows.
At the same time, the bow is held up by the bow arm using the rotator cuff muscles and deltoid. This is where the rotator cuff plays a critical role in bow hunting. ( i know this from personal experience, having a very old, irrepairable, rotator cuff tear on the side of my bow arm.)
 

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This is sound advice!

I have the privilege of working with and am a good friend with my shoulder surgeon. He knew what I wanted, we agreed on what I needed, and we were a success together.
J E Custom
9/7/1941 - 1/24/2021
Press on!

DoubleZ: what does this mean??? It looks ominous!
 

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Disclosure, I am an Orthopedic Surgeon. One of my closest associates is a “Ivy League “ shoulder specialist. I watch him daily do cool things to the shoulder. Age, severity of tear, occupation/ avocations, and general health all combine to make every patient unique.
I have a torn rotator cuff and I hunt with gun,occasionally with a bow and do hip and knee surgery every week. I did PT and no surgery twelve years ago. Still okay.
Point is, you are you, not a statistic. Establish a relationship with a surgeon of good repute and listen to the options. Make a slow deliberate decision. Get other opinions if necessary.
Good luck.
Agreed! I just met my Orthopedic Surgeon last Tuesday. She came highly recommended by my doc fishing buddies, a couple of co-workers that she operated on, and my physical therapist. Since my referral to see the Orthopedic Surgeon was slow, I have been going through physical therapy for my right shoulder/rotary cuff for over two months. I have established a close working relationship with the entire staff, also an important part of the overall decision. My follow-up is on 5 Mar, and I will more than likely go with the arthroscopic surgery (not replacement) on the same right shoulder operated on in 2012. The x-ray and MRI indicated worst than I expected. The good thing is I have an excellent range of motion, but the pain is another story.
 

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DoubleZ: what does this mean??? It looks ominous!
I apologize, I’m not sure I understand your question.
Are you referring to my signature line?

If so, this thread should clear things up.

 
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I apologize, I’m not sure I understand your question.
Are you referring to my signature line?

If so, this thread should clear things up.

Yes, I was referring to the reference at the bottom to JE Custom, and the dates. Butterbean has since confirmed my fear.
Thank you for the additional info. I'm sad that he fell victim to the damned China virus!!! Do you have any idea how old he was?
 

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Just got back from my orthopod and found out I need a complete shoulder joint replacement, and not only that, a reverse replacement where they replace the ball with a new socket and vice versa. My rotator cuff has somehow been destroyed and the switch allows the deltoid muscles to takeover. I should get about 70-80% back as regards strength. Not really good news, especially since I broke my upper arm bone a year ago. Time to think about a crossbow, bow hunting is in my past.
 

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Just got back from my orthopod and found out I need a complete shoulder joint replacement, and not only that, a reverse replacement where they replace the ball with a new socket and vice versa. My rotator cuff has somehow been destroyed and the switch allows the deltoid muscles to takeover. I should get about 70-80% back as regards strength. Not really good news, especially since I broke my upper arm bone a year ago. Time to think about a crossbow, bow hunting is in my past.
Sorry to hear that CV. I hope crossbows are allowed for hunting during the archery season where you hunt. (They formerly were allowed only during 16 day rifle season in Oklahoma, where I live, but now are allowed during our entire 3 1/2 month bow season for whitetail.)
 

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In Utah they are legal with a doctor’s letter, which I should have no problems getting. Getting drawn, now that is another story!
 

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After both shoulder surgeries in 2020 I am wondering what would be the easiest drawing compound at around 50-55 pounds . Crossbows just do not agree with me ! Been a Matthews guy since mid 90's and want to continue being an archery hunter of whitetail and maybe one more elk hunt!
I would think a 45# recurve, longbow, or short longbow(oxymoron) would fit the bill. You wouldn’t have to pull through the “violent” cycle of the compound, which feels like it would want to rip your shoulders out of their sockets! A 45# recurve with a razor sharp broad head will pass right through a whitetail.
I used to frequent a traditional archery website and almost everyone over 50 was experiencing the same types of shoulder situations as you. It’s unbelievable how much good can be done for shoulder health by doing just back side pull excersises. We don’t even need weights. Just get a set of bands, the same kind they use at the physical therapy place, and do face pulls, chest pulls, reverse fly’s, etc... Turns out all the wide grip benches, deep dips, behind the head presses do a pretty good number on your shoulders. Lots of great info out there on the web about shoulder health, just have to navigate through the bull****. Good luck with your rehab and your future bow hunts!
 

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I would think a 45# recurve, longbow, or short longbow(oxymoron) would fit the bill. You wouldn’t have to pull through the “violent” cycle of the compound, which feels like it would want to rip your shoulders out of their sockets! A 45# recurve with a razor sharp broad head will pass right through a whitetail.
I used to frequent a traditional archery website and almost everyone over 50 was experiencing the same types of shoulder situations as you. It’s unbelievable how much good can be done for shoulder health by doing just back side pull excersises. We don’t even need weights. Just get a set of bands, the same kind they use at the physical therapy place, and do face pulls, chest pulls, reverse fly’s, etc... Turns out all the wide grip benches, deep dips, behind the head presses do a pretty good number on your shoulders. Lots of great info out there on the web about shoulder health, just have to navigate through the bull****. Good luck with your rehab and your future bow hunts!
Drawing any of the bows uses one set of muscles in both shoulders, but holding the bow elevated in front of you while you aim at full draw requires rotator cuff function. It is hard to develop enough strength in the deltoids to compensate for the loss of the rotator cuff muscles, esp the supraspinatus.
If I am wrong, someone please correct me. (I've been working on it for over a year with minimal success.)
 
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