Looks like your going to have to educate us. This probably means nothing, but a guy at the range was having trouble (accuracy) with is sps. He had a pot load of shot up brass and I could tell he wasn't having any fun. I suggested he let the barrel cool down and then I'd give it a go. It shot a nice .75" group at 100. I've seen rem. with problems but I'd still take a chance on one.