Recoil Pad Ratings?

Discussion in 'Equipment Discussions' started by CTI1USNRET, Oct 21, 2004.

  1. CTI1USNRET

    CTI1USNRET Member

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    I installed a Pachmayr Decelerator Recoil Pad on my Marlin Guide Gun. The original pad might as well have been a brick. It's the only centerfire rifle I've had in 30 years.

    Anyway, I'm getting another two rifles: a 338 Win Mag or 338-06, and a 7x57 Mauser or 7-08.

    The rifles will be Winchesters, Remingtons, or Savages.

    How would you rate the recoil pads on those rifles?

    Whatever I order, should I just have the gunsmith install a Decelerator?

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  2. Coyote Hunter

    Coyote Hunter Well-Known Member

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    If you can get a chance, check out the Limbsaver recoil pad. I order one for a friend a couple weeks ago and I really like it. It's lots softer than the factory pads.
    I will be putting one on my 300WM before long.
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    Zod

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  3. Holmes

    Holmes Well-Known Member

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    It should be remembered that all the recoil pads in the world will not cure the evils of a stock that does not fit the shooter. Coorect LOP is of paramount importance for the LRH.

    Will this rifle see duty primarily from the prone, from a bipod/tripod, or from a bench? This needs to be considered with respect to LOP.

    I've spent the last couple of years playing with different recoil pads on some rather heavy calibres, e.g., 500 NE Ruger #1, 378 WM Ruger #1, etc.

    Cushy pads may sound nice and feel good initially, but they also allow the rifle to get a running start on ya! The Deccelerator is absolutely the softest pad I would consider using on any hard kicking rifle. I've got a workbench full of the others.

    If you change pads, and I believe you should, this is an ideal time to get measured professionally and add a spacer along with the new pad or reduce the LOP if necessary.

    Custom stocks are of course highly desireable but the workin' stiff cannot always go that route initially. Spacers can make a big difference.

    Get measured professionally with respect to your primary shooting position and I think you will be most pleased with the result.

    Luck on ya.

    Holmes
     
  4. 7ultra

    7ultra Well-Known Member

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    I've got both a limbsaver and a decelerator. Personally, and maybe this is just because I have shot the gun (338 Win) more recently, the limbsaver seems a little more cushy. Both pads are gread though. The limbsaver is definately comfortable and gets the job done. The decelerator is great too, although right now its on a 6.5 varmint gun, so there isn't alot of recoil to begin with. Both get the thumbs up.(if anything, buy the cheaper one)
     
  5. 7ultra

    7ultra Well-Known Member

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    Oh, to answer your question, if your getting the winchester in 338 like mine (Sporter LT) I would change out the pad. Especially if you switched out the pad on your guide gun. Full blown 338win loads will kick just as bad(probably worse than some) 45-70 loads.
     
  6. Glock119

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    Holmes: Question please. I thought LOP was measuered with LOP gauge with finger in the hole and arm bent up.

    How do you measure for shooting in prone, bench or any other position? I thought it was just one measurement based on the shooter and not his(hers) shooting position.

    Did I misunderstand? If not could you please explain. I would be very interested and willing to listen. Thanks
     
  7. Mysticplayer

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    LOP is established so that with the most common firing position that rifle will see, eye relief on the scope is perfect and you can comfortably control the rifle during recoil.

    The LOP is not fixed in stone. My rifles I hunt with have a slightly shorter length because I will be wearing more clothes and possibly having a backpack strap in between. Also, the rifle is shot offhand or in a more upright position so LOP can be shorter.

    Rifles I shoot with high mag scopes and low recoil will also have another LOP because of the reduced eye relief AND lower recoil. Rifles I shoot prone have longer LOP, simply because that's how the rifle sits.

    I want my rifle to allow me to get a full view in my scope when shouldered. That length also ensures that the scope/thumb does not hit me during recoil. Heavy recoilers will need more LOP in general.

    Are you uncomfortable when you shoulder the rifle? Do you need to adjust your eye back and forth to get a good sight picture? Do you get tired holding the rifle quickly? Do you get scope rash? Are you shooting a heavy kicker? Need to wear heavier clothing?

    All of these things affect the final LOP I put on my rifles. That length of pull is usually finalized after firing the gun.

    Jerry
     
  8. Mysticplayer

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    LOP is established so that with the most common firing position that rifle will see, eye relief on the scope is perfect and you can comfortably control the rifle during recoil.

    The LOP is not fixed in stone. My rifles I hunt with have a slightly shorter length because I will be wearing more clothes and possibly having a backpack strap in between. Also, the rifle is shot offhand or in a more upright position so LOP can be shorter.

    Rifles I shoot with high mag scopes and low recoil will also have another LOP because of the reduced eye relief AND lower recoil. Rifles I shoot prone have longer LOP, simply because that's how the rifle sits.

    I want my rifle to allow me to get a full view in my scope when shouldered. That length also ensures that the scope/thumb does not hit me during recoil. Heavy recoilers will need more LOP in general.

    Are you uncomfortable when you shoulder the rifle? Do you need to adjust your eye back and forth to get a good sight picture? Do you get tired holding the rifle quickly? Do you get scope rash? Are you shooting a heavy kicker? Need to wear heavier clothing?

    All of these things affect the final LOP I put on my rifles. That length of pull is usually finalized after firing the gun.

    Jerry
     
  9. Glock119

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    Jerry, I think you missed my question.

    I understand that lets say for example that the LOP of my shotgun I use in the winter for deer season has a shorter LOP than my rifle I use during the summer for other activities.

    I get that when your wearing bulky clothing that it causes a LOP gauge to read shorter than if you take measurement with only a tee-shirt on.

    I also understand that this measurement is approximate a good starting point for someone trying to get their firearm to fit them properly.

    My question was how do you measure for length of pull for the prone position, bench shooting, and others ect.?

    If you use a length of pull gauge to measure a person for LOP the only way to get different readings is to either put cloths on or take them off thus allowing the gauge to read a different length.

    I was always told that you put finger in hole of gauge and bend arm at elbow causing the slide to slide up the gauge and thus giving you your length of pull.

    Is there some other way to do it to get a different reading for different shooting styles? Thanks for the info.
     
  10. halftrack

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    I us the Pacmayr Decelerator pads on nearly every firearm
    I own. I don't put different pads on my auto shotguns, they
    are easy already.
     
  11. 460wby

    460wby Well-Known Member

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    I have some "kickers", inkluding 460wby, 338RUM, 416 Taylor and so on. I dont like muzzlebrakes so I dont have that on any of my rifles.
    But I have reduced a lot of pain by installing Pachmayr "Triple Mag"-pads on them. I have had "Decelarators" on them but have changed to the "Triple Mag". That is the softest recoilpad that I know about. And they are 1,5" thick, too.
    Try them out, and you are in for a pleasent surprise!