Real Bear Encounters Handgun Vs Bear Spray, Handgun wins!

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  1. sedancowboy

    sedancowboy Well-Known Member

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    I found this interesting considering the recent Bear encounters in MT and WY. The tree huggers want you to believe that Bear Spray is much more effective than a handgun. Not so much unless you can't shoot a handgun. Here is someone who took the time to research the data.
    Handguns were effective 97% of the time. Take a gun and leave the Bear Spray at the store.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/de...s-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz5UFScHWeC
     
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  2. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    I am aware of incidents near where I live over the past 50yrs, and also incidents on Kodiak Island, where skilled riflemen were mauled and killed by brown bears while in possession of high powered rifles, let alone pistols and revolvers.

    I also know of one brown bear mauling where the victim failed to stop the boar with his 30-06 rifle, was seriously mauled, but then successfully deterred the bear with his S&W .44 Mag revolver while his face was being crushed in the bears jaws. He fired into the underside of the bear 4 quick times by feel, shoving muzzle into fur.

    So the pool of examples cited is certainly far from complete, in some respects. Yet the documented incidents demonstrate that revolvers/pistols are very capable bear defense weapons.

    Give me a pistol or revolver any day over a can of pepper spray. Give me a high powered rifle any day over a pistol / revolver. And give me a Rem 870 pump shotgun with Brenneke slugs or Tungsten buckshot over a high powered rifle.

    Hard to top that. Well... maybe a flame thrower, if it was reliable and packable. :)
     
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    NEMTHunter Well-Known Member

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    Its hard to argue with a 546 Grain (1.25oz) slug moving @ 1520FPS. Or a 437 grain (1oz) slug [email protected] 1680fps. Not to mention the ability to shoot 5 to 6 rounds in seconds.
     
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  5. phorwath

    phorwath Well-Known Member

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    Give me a 2nd pistol if I'm gonna carry a backup anything.

    Pepper is good for seasoning dinner. No way am I going to have a bear maul me while laughing his a__ off!
    The mauling alone will be bad enough. Let alone a giggling bear.
     
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  6. jaybo

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    A few years ago my wife and I made a trip to the Tetons and Yellowstone. I was debating on whether or not to bring my pistol due to traveling with it on the airplane. About a month before we were scheduled to leave I read an article where a Yellowstone employee was mauled not far from the building that he worked in while on a main trail. I brought two. My 9mm for the two legged critters and my 45LC Ruger single six. I use Buffalo Bore Hard cast lead +P ammo when carrying for bear. It makes the 45LC as powerful as a 44 mag but you must be careful because only certain pistols can stand up to the hot loads. The Ruger Black Hawk is one with the muzzle energy being 1267 foot pounds with a 325 grain slug. They also have the same type of round in other calibers. One of my latest additions was a S&W Shield in 45 auto and the Buffalo Bore 255 grain +P for when I move and hike in the Smokies come my retirement in less than a year. Usually black bears don’t bother people but I don’t want to be the exception and I wanted the Shield to help keep the weight down. Plus it was a good excuse to get another pistol.

    By the way, while hiking in the Tetons on Paint Brush Canyon Trail, I encountered a moose at about 20 yards and a sow grizzly with two cubs at about 150 yards. It was a nice feeling to be armed.
     
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  7. HARPERC

    HARPERC Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="phorwath, post: 1503862, member: 4191"......Hard to top that. Well... maybe a flame thrower, if it was reliable and packable. :)[/QUOTE]

    Only made me think of being mauled by a really pissed burning bear.
     
  8. tmmcampbell

    tmmcampbell Well-Known Member

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    Only made me think of being mauled by a really pissed burning bear.

    Mmmmmm I was thinking wrapped in bacon and eating it in the field. My flame thrower must be hotter than yours. ;)
     
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  9. Classic12

    Classic12 Well-Known Member

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    lol what a meal, a side arm is a must for me in Bear territory