Ramblings and Such From Hunting Coyote

204_ruger

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I have almost given up deer and Turkey hunting. All I want to do is trap. I sure like to snare [ beaver, bobcats, coyotes] will never lean enough. I carry my 204 ruger and hand calls in the truck 24/7 365. Hunting predators is kind of hard here. Woods r so thick.
 

DSheetz

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204 ruger , I know how it is to be hooked on predator hunting . I haven't done much where there are a lot of trees and brush as far as coyote control is concerned please feel free to share with us how you are doing it in your part of the world .
 

Reemty J

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I would think a shotgun with BB or T shot would be your friend at times in the thick stuff...........YMMV.
 

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Reemty J, I would think a shotgun would do fine also. I might choose #4 buck shot for myself as I've skinned too many with #4 shot in them ( BB's ) when the aerial gunners went to it from #4 buck shot , that I caught after they lived through the experience . It is an interesting topic on the choice of barrels and shot types ect. .
 

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I like dead coyote T's Hevi-shot (heavier than lead)....which is .20 caliber, BB is .18 caliber. I would use the Dead coyote or the #4 buck.......your right Dsheetz.......our guy in Mondamtana here uses BB out of the helicopter and they shoot them twice........:oops:
 

74honker

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4 Buck is the load of choice here for a shotgun. Never did hear that female call for her mate. There has been one sighted a twice in last week within 1/2 mile but not on a pattern timing wise. I've been burning the candle on both ends and trying to light it in the middle too last couple weeks so haven't had the chance to try a call setup. However, the other night right at dark, I did hear the "conversation" that DSheetz spoke about previously. It was across the river from me probably a mile away, not anywhere I hunt or can get to. They did the quivering howls and the whole nine yards and probably lasted 10 minutes back and forth. Don't get me wrong I've listened to coyotes howl many a times but until you guys described what they were actually saying and why it was just noise before lol. Knowing what they were doing this time just made it a really cool moment. Knowledge is power and as always I thank you all for the knowledge you are spreading to us.
 

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Hi I hunt the power right away. Alot of hay fields and in the river bottoms. I hunt in open woods. I have a Remington sp10ga with custom choke with BBs. Cant use anything bigger than t shot. I have several boxes of dead coyote t shot. But I sold my 12ga . Here hunting predators can be done in the spring Turkey season (bobcat). This yr game and fish open seaon on nest eating predator yr around 24/7. To help turkey quail songbirds and help fawns too. I carry my rifle in the truck. Plus a person see's alot of armadillo's . I use a 22 mag in heavy brush with 40gr hp. I use my e caller in open woods just get up in a deer stand. I set the caller 40 or 50 yds away and use a decoy. I got to hunt in Russell Ks . It is so different hunting than back here.
 

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74honker , Once you get to listening to coyotes and start to figuring out what they are trying to tell each other the more you will realize how complex their vocalizations really are . then howling starts to mean more to you and will work better when you kind of know what you are saying to them . I know that when I can't understand what someone is saying to me I pretty much don't pay attention to them or if they are saying threatening things and I'm not in the mood to put up with it I will just walk away . For me I can get away with knowing just a few of their vocalizations and pretty much stay out of trouble when calling them .
 

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204 ruger , Here we have fur bearers and predators . Badgers , beaver and bobcats are fur bearers , badgers can be taken all year but you have to have a licence for them so then you pretty much have to buy a licence . Predators you can take year round , coyote ,red fox , coons with out a licence . Swift fox are protected . Beaver you need a licence for but they have a long season and if they are causing problems you can get a permit to take them .
 

DSheetz

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Reemty J , I used #4 buck out of the chopper until there was a shortage of it when they were going to steel shot . I didn't like the bb's even though I double tapped them some times it took 3 rounds depending on how far away you were and the angle you were at . They always complained about using to many shots per coyote those things cost I would just smile at them the cost of flying the chopper made three rounds of ammo look like a small cost.
 

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We were out one morning on a new snow of about 12" . It was cold in the teens the sun was right for seeing coyote on the snow . We got 12 that morning then we got on a track and followed it . It was lined out and on a dead run we tracked it for at least a mile before we saw him running straight out . We got up on him he stopped turned around and ran straight back at the chopper , We were maybe 6 or 8 feet off the ground he got up close then lunged at the skid of the chopper . It was a rare occasion that a coyote would attack instead of continuing to run . It's kind of different gunning from a chopper or fixed wing you have to adjust for air speed , their speed and the angle you are above them it all changes with every coyote . There are some good gunners that are a lot better at it then me .
 

Reemty J

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that coyote did what any red blooded, GOD fearing American would do........he knew he was going to die, and he wanted to bite you one last time before he folded.....GOD bless courage, in men and animals!!
Pray to GOD if we face the enemy of mankind, we have the courage to do exactly what that coyote tried to do🙏💪🌈 now Dsheetz, that was an interesting story!
 
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74honker , Once you get to listening to coyotes and start to figuring out what they are trying to tell each other the more you will realize how complex their vocalizations really are . then howling starts to mean more to you and will work better when you kind of know what you are saying to them . I know that when I can't understand what someone is saying to me I pretty much don't pay attention to them or if they are saying threatening things and I'm not in the mood to put up with it I will just walk away . For me I can get away with knowing just a few of their vocalizations and pretty much stay out of trouble when calling them .
Crow hunting was a really big thing when I was in my late teens, and in a sense they're just like coyotes. Their vocalizations are not random - I just didn't know the language very well. I did pick up on some key words that usually made things happen, though. One of the older guys I used to hunt with had it pretty well roped & tied, though. He told me that it's a lot easier to get the crows to come to the call when you are "calling them by their first name." That ol' boy could talk them into coming out to play any time he wanted to. He could even call in birds close to town, where they had all been educated by us young inexperienced guys, who he called "puppies." He knew what they were saying, and we didn't. When you don't know what they're saying, it's like trying to order dinner in a restaurant in Mexico using your rusty high school Spanish. Queso fundido is not the same as queso fundio. Don't ask me how I know this.
 

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Reemty J , I kind of hesitated shooting him . I do respect them all but as you stated he had courage to take on some thing 100 times his size knowing what the out come would be . Nicholasjohn , isn't it interesting how animals all have a language of their own , most people don't get the time or chance to learn much about what they have to say .
 

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