Quickload, for 6.5-284

[T3ninja]

Hi all, I'm in the process of putting together a 6.5-284 on a tikka action. I have everything ordered except the action, including dies and brass in hand.
Barrel is 1-7 carbon6 at 23"

I haven't ordered bullets yet but I'm looking at

131 hammer hunter
153 hornady A tip
135 super bulldozer 2

The powders I have on hand are shooters world "LONG RIFLE" and H4831SSC. I'm not so concerned about the 4831, it's the shooters world powder I'd like to figure out, it seems like it should be right in the correct burn rate but I cannot find any data on it for 6.5-284. I've emailed them (lovex,SW) and given them all the same information and even put out a couple more common bullets for them such as the eld M/X but haven't had a response in a few weeks.
So if anyone has or would be willing just to throw some numbers into quickload to see if these are even a safe option and where to start. It'd be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Travis

 

[jeremy.b]

Standard caveats: start low work up etc etc but here's a couple with the 130 TSX and the 133 Cutting Edge for the SW powder:

Cartridge          : 6.5-284 Norma
Bullet             : .264, 130, Barnes 'TSX' S 30246
Useable Case Capaci: 62.295 grain H2O = 4.045 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.228 inch = 81.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 23.0 inch = 584.2 mm
Powder             : Shooters World Long Rifle

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.6% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-06.0   84    47.00   2753    2188   50250  11242     99.6    1.270
-05.4   84    47.30   2768    2212   51070  11294     99.7    1.262  ! Near Maximum !
-04.8   85    47.60   2783    2236   51903  11345     99.7    1.255  ! Near Maximum !
-04.2   85    47.90   2798    2260   52748  11395     99.8    1.243  ! Near Maximum !
-03.6   86    48.20   2813    2285   53606  11443     99.8    1.234  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   86    48.50   2828    2309   54477  11491     99.9    1.224  ! Near Maximum !
-02.4   87    48.80   2843    2333   55361  11536     99.9    1.215  ! Near Maximum !
-01.8   87    49.10   2858    2358   56259  11581     99.9    1.206  ! Near Maximum !
-01.2   88    49.40   2873    2382   57170  11624    100.0    1.197  ! Near Maximum !
-00.6   88    49.70   2887    2407   58096  11666    100.0    1.187  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   89    50.00   2902    2431   59035  11706    100.0    1.178  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.6   90    50.30   2917    2456   59989  11745    100.0    1.169  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.2   90    50.60   2931    2481   60958  11783    100.0    1.160  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8   91    50.90   2946    2505   61941  11821    100.0    1.151  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4   91    51.20   2961    2530   62940  11858    100.0    1.143  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   92    51.50   2975    2555   63954  11896    100.0    1.134  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Cartridge          : 6.5-284 Norma
Bullet             : .264, 133, CutEdge-MTAC G11
Useable Case Capaci: 61.390 grain H2O = 3.986 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.228 inch = 81.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 23.0 inch = 584.2 mm
Powder             : Shooters World Long Rifle

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.6% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-06.0   85    47.00   2734    2208   49456  11243     99.6    1.280
-05.4   85    47.30   2750    2233   50312  11294     99.7    1.270
-04.8   86    47.60   2765    2258   51181  11344     99.7    1.259  ! Near Maximum !
-04.2   87    47.90   2780    2282   52063  11393     99.8    1.249  ! Near Maximum !
-03.6   87    48.20   2795    2307   52960  11440     99.9    1.239  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   88    48.50   2810    2332   53870  11486     99.9    1.229  ! Near Maximum !
-02.4   88    48.80   2825    2358   54795  11530     99.9    1.219  ! Near Maximum !
-01.8   89    49.10   2840    2383   55734  11573    100.0    1.210  ! Near Maximum !
-01.2   89    49.40   2855    2408   56687  11614    100.0    1.200  ! Near Maximum !
-00.6   90    49.70   2870    2433   57656  11654    100.0    1.191  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   90    50.00   2885    2458   58639  11692    100.0    1.181  ! Near Maximum !
+00.6   91    50.30   2900    2484   59639  11730    100.0    1.172  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.2   91    50.60   2915    2509   60654  11767    100.0    1.163  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.8   92    50.90   2930    2535   61684  11804    100.0    1.154  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4   92    51.20   2944    2560   62732  11840    100.0    1.145  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0   93    51.50   2959    2586   63796  11877    100.0    1.136  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 5% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 5% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     90    50.00   2937    2547   63330  11497    100.0    1.140  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 5% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     90    50.00   2823    2353   53923  11833     99.5    1.229  ! Near Maximum !

 

[T3ninja]

You sir are a gentleman. Thank you!

 

[can1010]

again I will say stop posting half baked garbage quickload predictions. quickload needs to be calibrated it aint a loading manual.
if you want it buy it and learn how to calibrate to your situation

 

[jeremy.b]

You sir are a gentleman. Thank you!

Glad to help give you a starting point!

 

[T3ninja]

again I will say stop posting half baked garbage quickload predictions. quickload needs to be calibrated it aint a loading manual.
if you want it buy it and learn how to calibrate to your situation

Thanks for the help, I don't even own a computer so quickload would be useless. I didn't ask for "load data" just if the powder would be suitable or safe. I've tried contacting the manufacturer of the powder to no avail. I can't justify spending money on a computer, and quickload, for the one time I've had a question about compatibility.

 

[can1010]

what starting point? those are not even the bullets he asked about and that is how people get in trouble

 

[FEENIX]

Thanks for the help, I don't even own a computer so quickload would be useless. I didn't ask for "load data" just if the powder would be suitable or safe. I've tried contacting the manufacturer of the powder to no avail. I can't justify spending money on a computer, and quickload, for the one time I've had a question about compatibility.

Travis,

If @helsyeah is willing and able to work with you, you might want to PM him instead so he can help you tailor to your specific load/goal.

Good luck and happy safe reading.

Ed

 

[T3ninja]

I have what I need now. Thanks to everyone!

 

[Mikecr]

Glad to help give you a starting point!

You need to stop 'helping' with QuickLoad.