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Pushing a .338 as fast as possible
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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 23070" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>MM,</p><p></p><p>Let's say that the rifle combo has a mechanical accuracy of 1/2MOA at long range. At 2890yds, the min. group size would be 14.5". So it is mechanically possible to hit an 18" to 24" target at that range.</p><p></p><p>From the type of info that is posted, I would think that these LR rigs can shoot better then 1/2MOA, the bullet certainly is.</p><p></p><p>The wildcard are the conditions. I agree that conditions would have had to be ideal to even consider the shot. I guess we could ask the hunter how many shots actually were needed to make the kill. Anyone know?</p><p></p><p>Another point that is often mentioned, is that game hit at extreme ranges tend not to jump and run. I guess the noise from the shot is so subdued that it can't scare the animal and the impact is such that the animal feels pain but may not know why. Most account that their game moved a little and bedded down without much fuss.</p><p></p><p>I live in a town where many compete in the Ironman Triathalon. I even work with one. When you look over the task, you really think these people are nuts and that fatalities must be commonplace. However, when you see some people complete the event and just walk off to dinner, you know there are specialists in just about every extreme field/sport.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts on what the mechanical accuracy of the 105's are? 10,000meters on an elk would be interesting. If you connected, you would not need to worry much about gutting or skinning. Would bullet placement still apply with this "cartridge" or would close enough be sufficient? To a 105, is an elk a varmint?</p><p></p><p>You put forth some good thoughts. I think most on this board have considered these in detail and are truly LR hunting because it is within their capabilities.</p><p></p><p>Makes you understand why a $3500 rangefinder is a must have.</p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 23070, member: 8947"] MM, Let's say that the rifle combo has a mechanical accuracy of 1/2MOA at long range. At 2890yds, the min. group size would be 14.5". So it is mechanically possible to hit an 18" to 24" target at that range. From the type of info that is posted, I would think that these LR rigs can shoot better then 1/2MOA, the bullet certainly is. The wildcard are the conditions. I agree that conditions would have had to be ideal to even consider the shot. I guess we could ask the hunter how many shots actually were needed to make the kill. Anyone know? Another point that is often mentioned, is that game hit at extreme ranges tend not to jump and run. I guess the noise from the shot is so subdued that it can't scare the animal and the impact is such that the animal feels pain but may not know why. Most account that their game moved a little and bedded down without much fuss. I live in a town where many compete in the Ironman Triathalon. I even work with one. When you look over the task, you really think these people are nuts and that fatalities must be commonplace. However, when you see some people complete the event and just walk off to dinner, you know there are specialists in just about every extreme field/sport. Any thoughts on what the mechanical accuracy of the 105's are? 10,000meters on an elk would be interesting. If you connected, you would not need to worry much about gutting or skinning. Would bullet placement still apply with this "cartridge" or would close enough be sufficient? To a 105, is an elk a varmint? You put forth some good thoughts. I think most on this board have considered these in detail and are truly LR hunting because it is within their capabilities. Makes you understand why a $3500 rangefinder is a must have. Jerry [/QUOTE]
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