On a lighter note This morning My wife and I headed out to a different spot. Seventeen degrees below zero. This spot always produces Elk when it's that cold. Not sure what they change about their migration to water at night, but it always produces none the less. We have a juniper high up on hill, that is crescent shaped so you can tuck up into it and have terrific cover. I hang orange on the top of the juniper so it can be seen for miles around. Just to let others know that position is occupied. Several hunters around us, none came within 400 yds of our spot. Never did see anything but three coyotes and nearly took home frostbite. But the hunter respect showed up today. We are one for one this year.