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<blockquote data-quote="lancetkenyon" data-source="post: 2593034" data-attributes="member: 68875"><p>I have a 25SST and two 6.5SSs.</p><p>For deer/pronghorn, either will do just fine.</p><p></p><p>Here are my takes on each.</p><p></p><p>25SST:</p><p>If you want a 20-22" barrel, the 25SST should hit 3050-3100 with a 133 Elite or 135 LR Hyb. Totally forget about the 131 Blackjacks. They have been on backorder for almost 2 years, with probably hundreds of thousands (2k for myself alone) already paid for and on eternal wait IF a shipment ever comes in....my guess is it won't.</p><p>Recoil is very marginal. Almost beyond physics for some reason. I push a 133 at 3199 in my 26" 10# 25SST. And that is an easy load with H1000. Other powders will get more speed too.</p><p>Here is a quick video of my 25SST for recoil reference.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]LWNfNuGJMgI[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>6.5SS:</p><p>To get 3000 in a 20-22" 6.5SS with a 156 is possible, but you will be running them warm to hot! But, even at 2900 (which is easily doable), those numbers look really good still, especially at your yardages. I push a 156 @ 2916 in my 20", and my hunting load is 3068fps in my 26". Recoil in my 9.5# 26", even with the 156 at 3003fps, is significantly more than my 25SST. And in my 8.5# 20", when run hot with a 156 @ 3001 (brass does not last at those speeds), recoil is even more pronounced. So I actually run a 130 OTM @ 3075 in my 20".</p><p></p><p>26" 6.5SS w. 156 @ 3003fps</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]HDcqOKgltm0[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>20" 6.5SS w. 130 OTM @ 3075fps</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]QbF9OKA4Y1M[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>I think, in a 20", a 140 would be about perfect for deer/pronghorn, and should be plenty for even elk at reasonable distances. I can get 3035fps easily with a moderate load of RL23. I hit 3100 with them, but was getting warm. And running the numbers between a 140 @ 3035 and a 156 @ 2916, out to 700, flip a coin.</p><p></p><p>As for actions, I have a couple Lone Peak Fuzion TI, a couple Kelbly Atlas Tac, a couple Defiance Deviants, a couple Defiance AnTi X, and now a couple Kelbly Nanook.</p><p>While the Defiance Devaint and Kelbly Atlas Tac are not a "lightweight" action, they are extremely smooth. With the Kelbly being the smoother of the two.</p><p></p><p>Now, as for my "Lightweight" actions (2 @ AnTi X, 2 @ Fuzion TI, 2 @ Nanook), if I could trade out my AnTi X and Fuzion TIs for Nanooks, I would be one very happy camper. I would 100% suggest the Nanook first, Fuzion Ti second, and AnTi X third as far as smooth. The downfall with the Fuzion Ti (besides price point) is it has a longer feed ramp that seems to catch bullets below it and not let them feed sometimes. Plus, limits COAL more than the others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lancetkenyon, post: 2593034, member: 68875"] I have a 25SST and two 6.5SSs. For deer/pronghorn, either will do just fine. Here are my takes on each. 25SST: If you want a 20-22" barrel, the 25SST should hit 3050-3100 with a 133 Elite or 135 LR Hyb. Totally forget about the 131 Blackjacks. They have been on backorder for almost 2 years, with probably hundreds of thousands (2k for myself alone) already paid for and on eternal wait IF a shipment ever comes in....my guess is it won't. Recoil is very marginal. Almost beyond physics for some reason. I push a 133 at 3199 in my 26" 10# 25SST. And that is an easy load with H1000. Other powders will get more speed too. Here is a quick video of my 25SST for recoil reference. [MEDIA=youtube]LWNfNuGJMgI[/MEDIA] 6.5SS: To get 3000 in a 20-22" 6.5SS with a 156 is possible, but you will be running them warm to hot! But, even at 2900 (which is easily doable), those numbers look really good still, especially at your yardages. I push a 156 @ 2916 in my 20", and my hunting load is 3068fps in my 26". Recoil in my 9.5# 26", even with the 156 at 3003fps, is significantly more than my 25SST. And in my 8.5# 20", when run hot with a 156 @ 3001 (brass does not last at those speeds), recoil is even more pronounced. So I actually run a 130 OTM @ 3075 in my 20". 26" 6.5SS w. 156 @ 3003fps [MEDIA=youtube]HDcqOKgltm0[/MEDIA] 20" 6.5SS w. 130 OTM @ 3075fps [MEDIA=youtube]QbF9OKA4Y1M[/MEDIA] I think, in a 20", a 140 would be about perfect for deer/pronghorn, and should be plenty for even elk at reasonable distances. I can get 3035fps easily with a moderate load of RL23. I hit 3100 with them, but was getting warm. And running the numbers between a 140 @ 3035 and a 156 @ 2916, out to 700, flip a coin. As for actions, I have a couple Lone Peak Fuzion TI, a couple Kelbly Atlas Tac, a couple Defiance Deviants, a couple Defiance AnTi X, and now a couple Kelbly Nanook. While the Defiance Devaint and Kelbly Atlas Tac are not a "lightweight" action, they are extremely smooth. With the Kelbly being the smoother of the two. Now, as for my "Lightweight" actions (2 @ AnTi X, 2 @ Fuzion TI, 2 @ Nanook), if I could trade out my AnTi X and Fuzion TIs for Nanooks, I would be one very happy camper. I would 100% suggest the Nanook first, Fuzion Ti second, and AnTi X third as far as smooth. The downfall with the Fuzion Ti (besides price point) is it has a longer feed ramp that seems to catch bullets below it and not let them feed sometimes. Plus, limits COAL more than the others. [/QUOTE]
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