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On the verge of switching to Berger bullets...
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<blockquote data-quote="Ridgerunner665" data-source="post: 706964" data-attributes="member: 12660"><p>Nothing against other calibers (they're all great)...but I'm more interested in what these bullets will do (or have done) in a 30-06...yeah, its old, plain, maybe even boring...but I happen to like the old warhorse!</p><p></p><p></p><p>My son bought a box of 175 grain Hunting VLD's last year...it took me until last week to get into serious load development with them because I "thought" they were gonna be complicated...boy was I ever wrong...easiest load work up I've ever done...maybe I just got lucky, but if I did it would be the first time, LOL.</p><p></p><p>I've used Nosler 165/168 grain Ballistic Tips for about 20 years now...they've never failed me in any way, shape, form, or fashion.</p><p></p><p>168 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip 3 shot group below...scope wasn't sighted in for them just yet (new scope)...I pulled one out a bit on this one but when I'm on my game the BT's will put them into one ragged little hole (.3 moa or so)...I worked long and hard to fine tune this load.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/Ridgerunner665/photobucket-8378-1349796767708.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>My understanding of the Berger Hunting bullets is...in simple terms...they do to big game what varmint bullets do to varmints....enter, explode, dead animal...I kinda like that theory. The BT's do that too, up to a point anyway...they enter, almost explode, and usually exit...and thats one thing that got me to consider the Bergers...I hunt pasture fields some with cows in them, others with high dollar show horses in them (to the tune of $20,000-$30,000 each). Now don't get me wrong...there is no substitute for being sure of whats beyond the target but if Bergers will kill quick with no exit...all the better.</p><p></p><p> Last week I loaded up 3 of the 175 grain Bergers over 58.5 grains of H4350, seated them to an appx. COAL of 3.36" (MV is 2,775 fps)...just to fire a 3 round group and see what happened....well, I got a pleasant surprise (target below)</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/Ridgerunner665/photobucket-3154-1349794648260.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Hard to argue with that ain't it...</p><p></p><p>I read a lot on this forum, and enjoy the hell out of it...but you just don't see much talk about 30-06's...my hunting consists of deer at 600 yards or less (most between 300-400 yards)</p><p></p><p> I'd just like to see and hear about Bergers in a 30-06...bullet weights between 168 and 185...but specifically the 175's, since they shoot so good in my rifle.</p><p></p><p>As I said in the beginning...nothing against the 30-378's, 338 EDGE's, 338 Lapua, etc...but that just ain't what I need to know. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>gun)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ridgerunner665, post: 706964, member: 12660"] Nothing against other calibers (they're all great)...but I'm more interested in what these bullets will do (or have done) in a 30-06...yeah, its old, plain, maybe even boring...but I happen to like the old warhorse! My son bought a box of 175 grain Hunting VLD's last year...it took me until last week to get into serious load development with them because I "thought" they were gonna be complicated...boy was I ever wrong...easiest load work up I've ever done...maybe I just got lucky, but if I did it would be the first time, LOL. I've used Nosler 165/168 grain Ballistic Tips for about 20 years now...they've never failed me in any way, shape, form, or fashion. 168 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip 3 shot group below...scope wasn't sighted in for them just yet (new scope)...I pulled one out a bit on this one but when I'm on my game the BT's will put them into one ragged little hole (.3 moa or so)...I worked long and hard to fine tune this load. [IMG]http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/Ridgerunner665/photobucket-8378-1349796767708.jpg[/IMG] My understanding of the Berger Hunting bullets is...in simple terms...they do to big game what varmint bullets do to varmints....enter, explode, dead animal...I kinda like that theory. The BT's do that too, up to a point anyway...they enter, almost explode, and usually exit...and thats one thing that got me to consider the Bergers...I hunt pasture fields some with cows in them, others with high dollar show horses in them (to the tune of $20,000-$30,000 each). Now don't get me wrong...there is no substitute for being sure of whats beyond the target but if Bergers will kill quick with no exit...all the better. Last week I loaded up 3 of the 175 grain Bergers over 58.5 grains of H4350, seated them to an appx. COAL of 3.36" (MV is 2,775 fps)...just to fire a 3 round group and see what happened....well, I got a pleasant surprise (target below) [IMG]http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc137/Ridgerunner665/photobucket-3154-1349794648260.jpg[/IMG] Hard to argue with that ain't it... I read a lot on this forum, and enjoy the hell out of it...but you just don't see much talk about 30-06's...my hunting consists of deer at 600 yards or less (most between 300-400 yards) I'd just like to see and hear about Bergers in a 30-06...bullet weights between 168 and 185...but specifically the 175's, since they shoot so good in my rifle. As I said in the beginning...nothing against the 30-378's, 338 EDGE's, 338 Lapua, etc...but that just ain't what I need to know. :) gun) [/QUOTE]
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