I had a wonderful load in my '06 using URP. After running out nearly a year ago I have nearly replicated it using R17. After all this time leaving customers hanging on with no regard, IMO they should just give it up and pack it in. I for one won't be using anymore of their stuff. They are far too unreliable to get anymore of my hard earned $$I was told today by Powder Valley Norma Powders will be avaiable at the end of December 2012 . Good luck.