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<blockquote data-quote="crkckr" data-source="post: 1557548" data-attributes="member: 78056"><p>This entire subject of the "perfect" or best elk cartridge is one that has, and will always be, one that will cause a lot of debate, usually with few minds being changed one way or another. I have 2 suggestions for anyone on the fence as to what caliber to buy their elk gun in. #1, talk to 5 or 6 guides. They advertise in most hunting mags, and can of course be found online. That is what led me to get the .338 Win. Mag. I hate to say it, for fear of starting another debate, but personally speaking, I think the belted cartridges are pretty much outdated these days. There are better, more modern rounds that work better, such as the Ultra Mag calibers. My choice today would be the .338 RUM and maybe even the 300 RUM (I worked up an elk load for a buddy that has one and it shot 200 gr. Partitions consistently into .5" at 100 yds; I will also brag a bit and say that with careful sizing, I got as many as 15 reloads out of several cases during load development, after the sales guy told him to forget reloading for it because the cases can only be reloaded once!). #2, look up Bryce Towsley's article, ""Enough Gun" Elk Cartridges" in the NRA Hunter. Of course, since I agree with what he says (for the most part) it might sound like an echo, but it sounds better and more articulate coming from someone who has more than a couple of elk under his belt. </p><p></p><p>For me, personally, I would simply stop reading any article that recommends a .270, .308 or even a 30-06 as a primary elk gun. Yes, they will all kill elk but I believe you are severely limiting yourself by doing so. Just my not so humble opinion. I will also note that my hunting mentor hunted elk with a Ruger #1 chambered in 6mm (!). I believe he used a 117gr Partition, which is now discontinued. He once shot a bull with a Texas Heart shot at 50 yards, hitting it square in the donut. The bullet stopped under the hide of his chest and he never took a single step. He hunched up at the shot and fell over, DRT. But I also know he would never have taken a 300 yard shot with that rifle, at any angle. Getting up close and personal with his game was his thing, in their beds if he could manage it (and he did, on several occasions!). Which is where my own 'get as close as possible' style came from... but I'm not a fanatic about it!</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>crkckr</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crkckr, post: 1557548, member: 78056"] This entire subject of the "perfect" or best elk cartridge is one that has, and will always be, one that will cause a lot of debate, usually with few minds being changed one way or another. I have 2 suggestions for anyone on the fence as to what caliber to buy their elk gun in. #1, talk to 5 or 6 guides. They advertise in most hunting mags, and can of course be found online. That is what led me to get the .338 Win. Mag. I hate to say it, for fear of starting another debate, but personally speaking, I think the belted cartridges are pretty much outdated these days. There are better, more modern rounds that work better, such as the Ultra Mag calibers. My choice today would be the .338 RUM and maybe even the 300 RUM (I worked up an elk load for a buddy that has one and it shot 200 gr. Partitions consistently into .5" at 100 yds; I will also brag a bit and say that with careful sizing, I got as many as 15 reloads out of several cases during load development, after the sales guy told him to forget reloading for it because the cases can only be reloaded once!). #2, look up Bryce Towsley's article, ""Enough Gun" Elk Cartridges" in the NRA Hunter. Of course, since I agree with what he says (for the most part) it might sound like an echo, but it sounds better and more articulate coming from someone who has more than a couple of elk under his belt. For me, personally, I would simply stop reading any article that recommends a .270, .308 or even a 30-06 as a primary elk gun. Yes, they will all kill elk but I believe you are severely limiting yourself by doing so. Just my not so humble opinion. I will also note that my hunting mentor hunted elk with a Ruger #1 chambered in 6mm (!). I believe he used a 117gr Partition, which is now discontinued. He once shot a bull with a Texas Heart shot at 50 yards, hitting it square in the donut. The bullet stopped under the hide of his chest and he never took a single step. He hunched up at the shot and fell over, DRT. But I also know he would never have taken a 300 yard shot with that rifle, at any angle. Getting up close and personal with his game was his thing, in their beds if he could manage it (and he did, on several occasions!). Which is where my own 'get as close as possible' style came from... but I'm not a fanatic about it! Cheers, crkckr [/QUOTE]
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