New Scope! Zeiss LRP S3 6-36

[Rob01]

Bought one of the Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x56 for my Vudoo and it showed up yesterday. Got it mounted up and took it to the range today. Zeiss did a great job on this optic! Glass is great and the reticle is very useful. On my 40 MOA base I have 26.5 mils of elevation left so plenty for matches to reach past 400 yards with the .22LR. The parallax and windage have reference marks higher up so you can see them easier when behind the rifle. I think I found the scope that will be living on my Vudoo now.

Had my friend Gary at the sight in 50/100 range with his Gen III Razor and ZCO as well. I looked at the Razor, Zeiss and Burris Pro first and then let him take a look but I didn't say what I felt so not to muddy the waters. After he got done he said the same thing I saw. The Zeiss and Razor III were even with the Pro just a smidge behind them with glass. The ZCO was a little better as to be expected. I then took the Zeiss and Pro over to the longer range and with the heavy mirage today it was a good test. The Zeiss again edged out the Pro in cutting mirage.

Can't wait to get this scope out to a match!

 

[Rob01]

Anyone else get one yet or the 4-25?

 

[Dumptruck]

Is the reticle hard to see on the lower power? I have a buddy that tan one last week on his rimfire and shooting in 10-12 power the reticle was hard to see.

 

[Rob01]

No I don't think it's hard to see at down to 10x but it will have to come down to the eyes of the shooter. My eyes are a little older but still no issue. My 4-25 will be delivered tomorrow so will check that one out too and let you know.

 

[Rob01]

Just got my 4-25x50 in today and got it mounted up. I took a look again at the 6-36 and I could see and use the reticle at 8x so plenty of range to use it. That 4-25 is a great optic also. Glass is very clear and bright. Got it on my centerfire but there to be moved to the Vudoo if I needed ELR. Here's a couple pics of them both. 4-25 is in the front on first pic and on right in second.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Is this the same scope that crashed and burned in the RS drop tests?

 

[Rob01]

Yup but I don't take anything there seriously. Got people I know who have been using these scopes hard for 6 months now and never had a turret pop off.

 

[Earnhardt]

Is this the same scope that crashed and burned in the RS drop tests?

Best joke I've heard in a while….

 

[WeiserBucks]

Best joke I've heard in a while….

I wasn't joking, it was a serious question.

 

[Rob01]

I wasn't joking, it was a serious question.

And how I answered it. I will be the first to let you know if my turret breaks off in use. As I said though I am not too worried about it.

 

[WeiserBucks]

I was just curious. I know that the RS testing isn't indicative of what to absolutely expect from any mfg.

Except Leopold, I've had nothing but issues with them.

 

[FURMAN]

Testing a scope by dropping it while attached to a rifle makes no sense. Scope mounts move. To test a scope it needs isolated period. I test by checking poi(with a very accurate and repeatable rifle), removing the scope, reattaching, rechecking poi(this test scope mount repeatability), removing scope, beating the failure areas with a rubber mallet, reattaching, rechecking poi. If it moves I remove, reattach, and recheck. I also test with a test fixture but I can not demonstrate success or failures to viewers with the method even though I feel it is technical better. My S3 has passed this twice. The only scope I have had fail to date is the mark 5 hd but when you tell the internet the L fans come out with pitch forks.

 

[Huntnful]

Testing a scope by dropping it while attached to a rifle makes no sense. Scope mounts move. To test a scope it needs isolated period. I test by checking poi(with a very accurate and repeatable rifle), removing the scope, reattaching, rechecking poi(this test scope mount repeatability), removing scope, beating the failure areas with a rubber mallet, reattaching, rechecking poi. If it moves I remove, reattach, and recheck. I also test with a test fixture but I can not demonstrate success or failures to viewers with the method even though I feel it is technical better. My S3 has passed this twice. The only scope I have had fail to date is the mark 5 hd but when you tell the internet the L fans come out with pitch forks.

I do like this approach a lot. But you yourself said your March "failed" using this method, and then retracted it saying it was just a variance in the dismounting and remounting of the optic. That can definitely induces a shift in POI easily at 100 yards.

But one thing with the RS tests, is they seem to be easily 100% repeatable with the NF scopes and other scopes with a quality build. It's not like those scopes are get any random instances of losing zero and what not. It appears only ****** scopes that are known for issues in field anyways are failing, and actual quality scopes aren't. I don't believe it's a coincidence. But I definitely understand the multiple connection points could cause SOME variance. But scopes shifting 2-3" at 100 yards from a small drop is definitely telling of their build quality in general.

Also personally know of most of the scopes that fail the drop tests, failing under normal field use by friends and family. Mark 5's, VX5, Vortex all drop like flies with consistent heavy field use.

 

[FURMAN]

I do like this approach a lot. But you yourself said your March "failed" using this method, and then retracted it saying it was just a variance in the dismounting and remounting of the optic. That can definitely induces a shift in POI easily at 100 yards.

But one thing with the RS tests, is they seem to be easily 100% repeatable with the NF scopes and other scopes with a quality build. It's not like those scopes are get any random instances of losing zero and what not. It appears only ****** scopes that are known for issues in field anyways are failing, and actual quality scopes aren't. I don't believe it's a coincidence. But I definitely understand the multiple connection points could cause SOME variance. But scopes shifting 2-3" at 100 yards from a small drop is definitely telling of their build quality in general.

Also personally know of most of the scopes that fail the drop tests, failing under normal field use by friends and family. Mark 5's, VX5, Vortex all drop like flies with consistent heavy field use.

I retracted nothing. The March lost zero. I won't run one again. I don't care if it's due to weak internals or a weak tube not holding zero is a scope not worth using. I'll repeat, the issue with tested with the scope attached is the rings move. Causation is not correlation. I can smack the rings and see reticle shift. This is another topic of discussion and one I'm still searching for permanent resolution.