New Rifle Help

scarney19

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Looking at getting a new rifle. In a toss up between the Weatherby Vangaurd Back Country and the Browning Hell’s Canyon Speed. Any suggestions, comments or concerns?
 

HARPERC

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The Weatherby-It has an accuracy warranty-how that works out is any bodies guess, but it comes with some expectation. The .257 Weatherby is available.
 

CMP70306

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I would go with the browning, my dad has several and they are all light weight and all shooters.
 

MudRunner2005

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Browning all day long... They have now started offering several of their 7mm caliber rifles (in certain models) with a modern 1:8 twist...Which will allow you to shoot up to 200gr bullets for long range.

Without a doubt, other than the Remington 5R Milspec rifles, the Browning A-Bolts have always been the most accurate factory rifles I've owned.
 

Weatherby Fan

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Reality is you probably can't go wrong with either the Vanguard or the Hells Canyon, both are 6 3/4lbs, it will depend on what fits you better, I've owned a few Vanguard S2 rifles and all have shot extremely well with factory ammo, 243,25-06, 240 wby, 6.5cm, all shot 1/2moa or less, the 240 wby is one of the most accurate rifles I have ever seen, I paid 529.00 for that rifle and will shoot one hole groups with factory Weatherby 85gr TSX ammo.
 

MudRunner2005

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I have a couple Browning A-Bolts and can't say anything bad about them.
My best friend has a Mark V and it works well also?
The Accumark I had was a piece of crap with MAJOR manufacturing defects. I could understand a rifle with hidden issues, as that does happen from time to time with every manufacturer. But, it was when I contacted Weatherby about the issues for warranty repairs, they pretty much told me to f-off, even though I had had the rifle inspected, bore-scoped, and looked at by a professional gunsmith so I KNEW exactly what was wrong with it before contacting them. So I traded it off for a huge loss, and bought another Remington 700 5R with zero problems. Won't ever buy another Weatherby.
 

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The only problem with a Browning is the trigger sux and there is NO replacement for it. Timney sells some "springs" for it but they suck too. I own a browning A-Bolt and have tried the springs. So not just blowing smoke here.

I would get the Vanguard. You can replace the trigger with a Timney that can set down to 1.5 lbs. or so. That will take the rifle to a whole new level.
 

MudRunner2005

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The only problem with a Browning is the trigger sux and there is NO replacement for it. Timney sells some "springs" for it but they suck too. I own a browning A-Bolt and have tried the springs. So not just blowing smoke here.

I would get the Vanguard. You can replace the trigger with a Timney that can set down to 1.5 lbs. or so. That will take the rifle to a whole new level.
I can agree with that. The Rifle Basix spring kit helped my A-Bolt II rifle alot, but it's still nothing like an aftermarket trigger.

Jard makes a trigger...

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/triggers/browning-a-bolt-trigger-prod54521.aspx
 

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