New reloader, first load: questions

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  1. dougduey

    dougduey Well-Known Member

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    No question is dumb, so remember that. I had lots of questions, and a lot of very nice and knowledgeable people helped me out a ton when I got started. Just know that you are no going down a “rabbit hole” and reloading becomes a whole new obsession. It’s fun and rewarding, and can drive you a little mad at times. I’ve become good friends with a few guys from this site. We are all here to help.

    Ok, to get you started, what bullet and weight are you looking to shoot?? I can get you on the right track once I know that. Start Googling places that carry reloading supplies in your area, so you can find out what components are readily available to you.
     
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  2. Dosh

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    512, Rarely does someone's pet load perform as well in another rifle, too many variables and physics involved. i.e.... what works for him may shoot poorly in your rifle.
     
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  3. Brydawg512

    Brydawg512 Well-Known Member

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    So, I am open to considering bullets, however I have been eyeing the Bergers and Nosler Partitions. I am unsure of what weight to shoot.. I have been told the 160s are suitable for the black bear, deer, and elk that I hunt, but again, open ears to recommendations! I appreciate your help.
     
  4. Brydawg512

    Brydawg512 Well-Known Member

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    Understood. Also, say I am planning to load a Berger 168 gr. VLD, and I am referring to the Nosler reloading manual for specifications. Do I follow the specifications as far as suitable powder types, primer, overall case length, etc. as if I was loading a 168 gr. Nosler bullet?

    Thank you.
     
  5. Brydawg512

    Brydawg512 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you very much!

    For example, say I was planning to load a 168 gr. Nosler bullet and I have H1000, Retumbo and RL25. You are saying I start with the middle grain weight listed and then work up from there? If so, do I go up in 0.5 grain increments?

    The thing I am confused on is this... Am I trying to load with the highest grain weight that allows me to still be accurate? For example say I had 68 grains loaded, max being 70. I would start with 68, shoots accurate. Next, bump it to 68.5, shoots accurate. Next, bump to 69, shoots accurate. Finally, I bump to 69.5 and the grouping expands and loses the accuracy seen before. Is my next step to find the highest grain count between 69 and 69.5 that allows accuracy?
     
  6. dougduey

    dougduey Well-Known Member

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    A 160 gr bullet is a perfect all around bummer weight in 7mm.
    Berger’s can be finicky to find an accurate load since they tend to be effected by seating depth more than other bullets. I wouldn’t start with them as my first reloading venture. Partitions are great bullets and prefer to be seated long for best accuracy. Do you have a DBM or bottom metal? We need to know how long you can seat your bullets. The longer you can seat a bullet, the more you are able to take advantage of case capacity and, thus, have higher velocities.
     
  7. dougduey

    dougduey Well-Known Member

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    Ugh!! I hate the autocorrect feature on my phone. Sorry for typos.
    Not sure how a 7 mm is a perfect bummer weight!! Perfect bullet weight is what I meant
     
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  8. Brydawg512

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    Ok, good to know. By DMB or bottom metal I assume you are referring to how my rifle holds rounds? If so, no magazine, just push in from the top. Also reading, but will definitely need to hear some personal experience or tips/tricks to identifying loads that are too hot.. aka learning to understand pressure signs.
     
  9. Dry Heat?

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    IMR 4831 has always been very very nice to me in my 7mm RMs. I like many different Bullets but lean toward Barnes and Nosler. I’d try the Barnes 168 gr LR X Bullet or 160 gr Nosler Accubonds. Either one will kill any game suitable for the Cartridge and generally shoot real accurate in a quality rifle. There are many new powders out there now. Better powders. Great powders. It’s a great time to be a Reloader!
     
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  10. Mustang72

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    That is pretty much how it works except you are supposed to start with the lowest charge listed. The Manuel will really explain most of your questions after you get it. I would stay away from the bergers and all copper bullets until after you've loaded with some gamekings or hornadys. The standard bullets are cheaper and less finicky to start out with.
     
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  11. Brydawg512

    Brydawg512 Well-Known Member

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    Great, thanks for the recommendations! As for now, the ol 80s model Winchester M70 will be getting the reloads... one day a quality rifle!
     
  12. Brydawg512

    Brydawg512 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the information. Ready to start reading the manual
     
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  13. dougduey

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    Look in the articles section on this site. There is an article called Load Tuning by Jerry Teo. Read it. It will help you understand how to work up a load properly and find a very accurate load.
    Understanding pressure signs and what to look for is all explained in the Nosler reloading manual. Read it when you get it. You’ll know when you are pushing the envelope because it will get hard to lift the bolt and extract the brass. When the bolt or brass gets stuck, you are way over pressure and in the danger zone. Stop, don’t shoot any more of those rounds. You need to back down the powder charge.
     
  14. Mustang72

    Mustang72 Well-Known Member

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    Don't sell your old 80s model 70 short. The pre 64 models are well known as some of the greatest rifles ever made.
     
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