I just bought this tent from Cabelas Bargain cave. It was in the bargain cave because it had no stakes or ropes. I was told it was a 12x17. I got it home, rolled it out and behold it was only 14' long. Too small for me. So rather than drive all the way back to Post Falls for a return, thought I'd try selling it first. It's a 10oz Montana Canvas. It has zippered doors w/buckles. Also has stove jack and sod clothe. Asking $650. Local pickup (Anaconda, MT). Or you can pay to ship. This does NOT include frame. Great deal for someone that can use this size tent.