I just wanted to thank you guys for all the info on optics, including the link to betterviewdesired.com. Here is the run down on the long range hutning optics I just ordered from SWFA: Leica 8x42 BN Black Leica 1200 Laser Rangefinder. Swarovski STS 65 HD 20-60x65mm Soptter The spotter is very expensive but has available third party adapters for attaching my Nikon digital camera and my Canon miniDV Camcorder. Very cool. About all I'll get next is a bigger set of bincoulars like 12 or 15s or something, but I think I'm all set for now. Once they arrive, I'll be sure to post some in action photos and give you my opinion on them. Take care and good hunting!