New Berger 25cal 135gn LRHT

BEEMAN

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Should be real nice. R26 is the only powder I’ve used with federal 210. I’ve got them basically right at the lands with 55 gr of R26.
 

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3100+ is very doable with a 26" barrel and h4831sc with a 2506.
Don't get me wrong I have gotten higher velocities with H 1000 and H4831 (3100fps) but with my rifle and bullet I got the tightest groups with the IMR4831. I quit chasing velocity long time ago once I realized for a hunting rifle I wanted consistency. Your from Gillette and I hunt in western Nebraska so you might agree with me that the most important thing when hunting is being able to read the 25 to 30mph wind with gusts to 35 and get the shot off in a timely manner. Anyway the 135 gr. berger and blackjack intrigue me for a 25-06, but they will have to wait until I decide to rebarrel with a higher twist.
 

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Don't get me wrong I have gotten higher velocities with H 1000 and H4831 (3100fps) but with my rifle and bullet I got the tightest groups with the IMR4831. I quit chasing velocity long time ago once I realized for a hunting rifle I wanted consistency. Your from Gillette and I hunt in western Nebraska so you might agree with me that the most important thing when hunting is being able to read the 25 to 30mph wind with gusts to 35 and get the shot off in a timely manner. Anyway the 135 gr. berger and blackjack intrigue me for a 25-06, but they will have to wait until I decide to rebarrel with a higher twist.
Accuracy first all the way. The one thing with hunting rifles is that .2 accuracy isn't necessary. I had a hard time convincing myself that. Most of us are the same way pretty much. If I'm at .5-.75 accuracy wise for deer size game, I'm happy. All my LR ground hog loads shoot better but the target is smaller. I always say if I can hit a ground hog at any range, that'd be a dead deer. Vitals I feel are close to the average size of a pasture pig. Being slower in velocity to obtain maximum accuracy is a good plan.
 

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Well this is pushing me towards a 25cal after I get a larger cal going for bigger game. The numbers that y’all are posting sound like that would work very well.
 

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Aawwwww....... but there's also a133gr hunting bullet rumored to be out the same time!
No rumors. Someone posted the advertisement from Berger.
 

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Plinker147

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Yup that 133 EH will force my hand to rebarrel my 25-06 to a faster twist.

In regards to velocity I get 3080 with accuracy 115 BT with IMR 4831. I get 3200 out of R25 with 115 BT but loose some accuracy. This is out of 24 in barrel.

I think to get 3000 out of the 133-135 you will have to do a custom long throat to give room for that long bullet. 3000 likely do-able in 26 in barrel but I think most will fall into that 2900-50 range. It’s gonna be fun to see.
 

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I already have mine, 25x284 throated for the 131 gr blackjack ace. Ruger action, Krieger 1-7 twist 25" barrel. I get 3150 fps out of it with the ace bullets. Have been waiting for years for these heavy bullets for the 25. Actually killed a cow elk last year at 265 yards and the ace bullet worked great but I am looking forward to trying out the 133 gr Berger. I am glad I had this rifle built.
 

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I already have mine, 25x284 throated for the 131 gr blackjack ace. Ruger action, Krieger 1-7 twist 25" barrel. I get 3150 fps out of it with the ace bullets. Have been waiting for years for these heavy bullets for the 25. Actually killed a cow elk last year at 265 yards and the ace bullet worked great but I am looking forward to trying out the 133 gr Berger. I am glad I had this rifle built.
Any idea what your freebore is ? Also what's your cartridge OAL with the 131s ?
 

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Any idea what your freebore is ? Also what's your cartridge OAL with the 131s ?
I run the ACE @ 3.177 OAL I will have to get the freebore from my gunsmith but I can get you the info. This rifle is a long action so I can run with the longer bullets. This rifle is a great shooter and I think it will only get better as the rounds add up. I think the 133 VLD will be awesome...
 

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I run the ACE @ 3.177 OAL I will have to get the freebore from my gunsmith but I can get you the info. This rifle is a long action so I can run with the longer bullets. This rifle is a great shooter and I think it will only get better as the rounds add up. I think the 133 VLD will be awesome...
My build is on a LA with a CFW barrel to finish at 24. I'm gonna try and get 25" if I can. In retrospect, I wish I'd have ordered a 26" finish length. Either way I'm sure best accuracy will end up being around 3100+/-. I suspect your freebore is around .131-.135. Especially if you designed it around the Blackjacks.
 

Christian Wiseman

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Don't get me wrong I have gotten higher velocities with H 1000 and H4831 (3100fps) but with my rifle and bullet I got the tightest groups with the IMR4831. I quit chasing velocity long time ago once I realized for a hunting rifle I wanted consistency. Your from Gillette and I hunt in western Nebraska so you might agree with me that the most important thing when hunting is being able to read the 25 to 30mph wind with gusts to 35 and get the shot off in a timely manner. Anyway the 135 gr. berger and blackjack intrigue me for a 25-06, but they will have to wait until I decide to rebarrel with a higher twist.
I agree reading wind is super important. Im originally from Nebraska north of grand island about an hour
 

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