NBT for deer

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by winmag76, May 16, 2010.

  1. winmag76

    winmag76 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    57
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    I'm trying to decide witch 180 gr bullet to use for deer maybe elk from 0-600 yds. Will the NBT or a partition be alright for this out of a 300 wm at about 2950 fps. I would like to have an elevation turret made for my rifle thanks for any info and pet loads.:D
     
  2. winmag

    winmag Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,529
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    For Elk and other large game I prefer a bonded bullet out to the 6-800 yard range. Just my opinion, but Id way rather have a tough bullet for close to mid/long range on big game. Patrition is tough! But they dont have a boattail. I respect the Partition for toughness for sure! It would be my secont favorite for this range. For anything farther Id go with a more ''fragile'' bullet (for lack of a better description) like an SST, or a NBT, Berger etc., because you know theyll expand at lower velocities. Just my preferance.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2010
  3. royinidaho

    royinidaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,907
    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2004
    My experience says that NBTs are fine for deer. I've had them travel in excess of 2 feet in deer and do the DRT thing with even with a low angle hit that went though the boiler room but no direct hit on vitals though internal damage was severe.

    They most always shed the lead core but the jacket remains intact.

    The 30 cal 180 should be fine for elk if the elk is a cow or small bull and if the vitals are hit. For large bulls that are pumped up with the adrenalin running high the tougher bullet in a high shoulder shot would be the ticket. Or take out both front shoulders.
     
  4. Southpaw

    Southpaw Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    250
    Joined:
    May 17, 2007
    I have no experience with the 300s, but every deer I've shot with NBTs dropped on the spot. I'm very satisfied.
     
  5. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,338
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    +1
    Before the accubonds came out the ballistic tips were my bullet of choice at longer ranges and
    the partitions were for close (300 yards and under) use at high velocity (3200+ at POI)

    The accubonds have solved the problem of grenading at close range (Due to high velocity)
    that the BAllistic tips had. and not expanding at extream ranges like the partition would
    sometimes do unless you hit some bone on the way in.

    At normal ranges the ballistic tips perform extremely good as long as the impact velocity is
    between 1800 ft/sec and 2800 ft/sec. they will expand below 1800 but they are not as
    predictable.

    All bonded bullets seem to be more consistant in game with a variety of shot placements.

    Just my opinion

    J E CUSTOM
     
  6. winmag76

    winmag76 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    57
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2009
    Guy's thanks for all of the info, and now another dumb question. Can I do my load development with nbt and then switch to the ab's for hunting. Thanks once again.lightbulb
     
  7. jrsolocam

    jrsolocam Banned

    Messages:
    549
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2010
    As JE Custom said, watch the velocity. I shot a whitetail buck at 25 yards with a .257 Wby 115 gr BT. I hit him right behind the shoulder. The bullet went to peices on the ribs on the entry side. It killed him dead, but it was the strangest wound I have ever seen. The ribs were just smoked in about a 10-12" area and shrapnels of ribs were blown into the lung. But it drops them fast at 300 yards...I switched to partitions after that.
     
  8. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,338
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    Yes .

    They are very close and cheaper but once you are satisfied with the load
    do the final testing with the Accubonds to make sure.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  9. winmag

    winmag Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,529
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    +1 you can, but youll likely have a different P.O.I. , Just like J.E. said confirm it first with the Accubonds.
    I personally would rather work up a load for both and write down the info on the results. More than likely youll have better results, and load data for wichever you decide to use for a given day. I like to practice with what I hunt with, but theres nothing at all wrong with having the load data for both. You may want to hunt with both on different critters.
     
  10. MSLRHunter

    MSLRHunter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    395
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2009
    I wouldn't hesitate to use the NBT for deer out to 600 yds. I have shot deer with a 7mm 150 gr NBT at POI velocity of over 3000fps and get exit holes if no heavy bone is encountered. I have used them in 30 cal with great results. Elk may be a different story though. I haven't had the pleasure of shooting an elk yet, but as previously posted I would go with the accubond for that.
     
  11. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,338
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2004
    +1

    Excellent advice !!!!!

    J E CUSTOM