My Rem 700 FIRED on Bolt Closing!!

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing' started by Ingwe, May 14, 2019.

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  1. Biggs300

    Biggs300 Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2011
    A few years back, myself and two other hunters in our group used Rem 700's, all of which were purchased within a couple years of each other. Two in our group had slam fires. We contacted a two different gunsmith's and were to immediately bring them in. We did, all three of us had the triggers replaced and haven't had a problem since.

    If you are going to use your rifle, I certainly hope you hunting solo or shooting with no one else around.
  2. Cullking

    Cullking Member

    Jan 15, 2018
    Your trigger should be no less than 3 pounds. This is for safety. Two and a half is too light.
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  3. Cullking

    Cullking Member

    Jan 15, 2018
    Remington triggers are not the safest in the gun world. I still think they should use the old garand safety system. That was simple yet trustworthy.
  4. crkckr

    crkckr Well-Known Member

    Feb 27, 2014
    Just in case there's someone out there not aware of this. Anytime you adjust *anything* on a trigger there are 4 things that must be tested before the gun is loaded.

    1. Close the bolt, engage the safety, pull on the trigger.

    2. Release pressure on the trigger after #1 and take the safety off.

    3. Close the bolt and with the safety off, hit the butt on a hard floor - as hard as you're willing to hit it!

    4. Slam the bolt home, again, as hard as you're willing to do it (with safety off) several times. This is definitely not a normal closing of the bolt, don't pussyfoot this!

    Any movement of the firing pin during these tests is a fail requiring adjustment to a safe condition!

    Doesn't matter what brand of trigger or firearm manufacturer, do all 4 steps. It's the only way to insure your rifle is safe to hunt with. Once this is completed and you're satisfied with the results, the use of at least blue loctite (personally I use red stud and bearing mount! They are not impossible to adjust at a later time) is a requirement and the use of red nail polish to put a witness mark on the adjustment screws isn't a bad idea either. Reducing the trigger pull weight to below the manufacturers minimum weight is an automatic fail!

    Failure to do all four tests can leave you an unsafe rifle, just like failure to follow even one of the 4 safety rules will make you an unsafe shooter. If you're lucky like I was, you might get away with just blowing the back window out of your camper (rifle was pointed straight up on the tailgate, window opened up to about 45 deg.). It will be one hell of a (nasty) surprise when a rifle goes off unintentionally around you. Been there, done that, it's a T shirt no one wants, even if no one gets hurt or killed!
  5. Ingwe

    Ingwe Well-Known Member

    Jul 3, 2011
    OK Fellas, TT called me yesterday and a new trigger is on its way out to me
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  6. .300 Dakota

    .300 Dakota Well-Known Member

    Jul 21, 2018
    Yes, this is a trigger issue, plain and simple. This should not have happened. Settings are obviously not right. The problem arises when the pull is set right on the cusp of firing and then a little wear (doesn't take but a pull or two) polishes the sear engagement area. Then What was a safe situation, now becomes a deadly situation. Good to know. I have some Trigger Techs. Look for recalls and/or changes in design where new triggers won't be as light as before.
  7. RandyinVa

    RandyinVa Well-Known Member

    Mar 31, 2007
    If you have to slam the bolt shut with a lot of force, you have overlooked a problem with the round. If you get heavy resistance, pull it and check it out back home.
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  8. Short Round

    Short Round Member

    Oct 15, 2009

    Ugh, Not a good feeling is it?

    I have never replaced a rem700 trigger. I have adjusted them, all of them. I have purchased 40x rifles with completely gummed and varnished triggers and left my old eighties vintage 700 varmint too long and had it gum up.

    That factory trigger design is fallible with oils hardening. It is more prone to it with lighter trigger settings. Fortunately my experiences they were obvious before going bang. Cold day, gummy trigger begat a retarded striker operation. Too slow to ignite a primer. The 40x was an army surplus from cmp. I could cock it, pull the trigger and moments later the striker would ooze forward.

    That one I split the trigger pack apart and removed varnish with picks. Hosing with brake cleaner ans lighter fluid wasn’t working.

    That trigger design must be clean and free of oil. That trigger must be set with sufficient weight preload on the trigger spring. That takes out the randomness of parts engagement. My smith friend said with the set springs in threaded holes going light is bound to be random interference from the spring coils engaging the threaded wall. Makes sense to a point. Again with enough weight it is a minor issue.

    All in all if I had it to do all over again I would have gone for more Winchester model 70s back in the day. My main rifles now are two custom .260s on FN SPR actions, and a model 7.

    Recognizing the limits of the walker design and working within their design is key to safety.

    Someone mentioned going with a garand style. Ha that is one that famously gets double tripped being semi auto and bounced off the shoulder triggering the inadvertent second pull. No issue in a bolt gun though.
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  9. Counselor II

    Counselor II Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    Where was your trigger finger?
  10. bigngreen

    bigngreen Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2008
    Hopefully it works, I've never had a replacement one work any better but there is always a chance!
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  11. Remmy700

    Remmy700 Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Same here. Just make sure when you install that ol girl, don't be gentle with it trying to induce the same conditions that you had before. Slam the crap out of that bolt, and I always slam the butt on the ground also. Good luck and good luck on your hunt!
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  12. raider1v1

    raider1v1 Well-Known Member

    Sep 12, 2004
    ----. this thread is a roller coaster. glad they are sending one out. this is 100% the right way to go!
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  13. Steve Watson

    Steve Watson Member

    Mar 26, 2019
    Need to increase sear engagement, this shouldn’t happen again, if it does contact the company that made the trigger and have them replace it. After you reset the seat engagement test with the gun empty.
  14. thork91

    thork91 Active Member

    May 2, 2008
    Remington always had this problem!!