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<blockquote data-quote="DartonJager" data-source="post: 1363934" data-attributes="member: 95733"><p>Have you tried Barnes .458" 300 grain traditional cup and core semi-spritzer bullets? I have had excellent performance and accuracy with them, but only on deer. Also by Barnes do you mean Barnes .451" flat based all copper T-EZ polymer tipped 250 and 300 grain muzzleloader specific bullets? I have shot these out of my Encore and Savage 10-ML-11 with great success.</p><p>I will stop short of claiming to be a ML expert but between my Encore 209x50, my Savage smokeless 10ML-II and my Knight Elite I have fired literally THOUSANDS of saboted clad ML rounds comprised of bullets from Barnes, Hornady, T/C, Remington and Harvester. Based on this experience because your upper MV limit will be at or below 2000fps, and using 777 almost definitely below 2000fps by the time you get to 200 meters your velocity will almost certainly be low when you combine the low initial MV and very poor BC of all ML bullets, I don't see how any of the common expanding bullets from the above makers could possibly pass all the way through such a tough animal as an elk.</p><p>The only other ML specific bullet I can recommend to you is Parker. They make superb copper clad lead core ML specific bullets with (for a ML bullet) very good BC's that have a proven excellent on game performance out of ML's out to unheard of distances usually reserved for center fire rifles. Lehigh also makes all copper ML bullets as well and they also are great performers worth a look.</p><p>But as I said at such a low impact velocity if you wish to use an expanding bullet with the expectation of complete pass through near to or at a 100%reliability, I'm not sure there is a bullet out there for you.</p><p>An excellent website I can happily recommend you go to for all the information you will EVER need or want on all types of muzzleloaders is <a href="http://www.dougssavagemessageboard.com" target="_blank">www.dougssavagemessageboard.com</a> there is nothing about ML's that is not known by the people who populate Doug's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DartonJager, post: 1363934, member: 95733"] Have you tried Barnes .458" 300 grain traditional cup and core semi-spritzer bullets? I have had excellent performance and accuracy with them, but only on deer. Also by Barnes do you mean Barnes .451" flat based all copper T-EZ polymer tipped 250 and 300 grain muzzleloader specific bullets? I have shot these out of my Encore and Savage 10-ML-11 with great success. I will stop short of claiming to be a ML expert but between my Encore 209x50, my Savage smokeless 10ML-II and my Knight Elite I have fired literally THOUSANDS of saboted clad ML rounds comprised of bullets from Barnes, Hornady, T/C, Remington and Harvester. Based on this experience because your upper MV limit will be at or below 2000fps, and using 777 almost definitely below 2000fps by the time you get to 200 meters your velocity will almost certainly be low when you combine the low initial MV and very poor BC of all ML bullets, I don't see how any of the common expanding bullets from the above makers could possibly pass all the way through such a tough animal as an elk. The only other ML specific bullet I can recommend to you is Parker. They make superb copper clad lead core ML specific bullets with (for a ML bullet) very good BC's that have a proven excellent on game performance out of ML's out to unheard of distances usually reserved for center fire rifles. Lehigh also makes all copper ML bullets as well and they also are great performers worth a look. But as I said at such a low impact velocity if you wish to use an expanding bullet with the expectation of complete pass through near to or at a 100%reliability, I'm not sure there is a bullet out there for you. An excellent website I can happily recommend you go to for all the information you will EVER need or want on all types of muzzleloaders is [URL='http://www.dougssavagemessageboard.com']www.dougssavagemessageboard.com[/URL] there is nothing about ML's that is not known by the people who populate Doug's. [/QUOTE]
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