Rich got me a bunch of these and there's no doubt they're going to work. I used 98 grains of US869 and they clocked 2840 fps from my 27" 1:8 Benchmark. There was no sign of pressure or even any indication I was getting close to a pressure sign--I could have added more powder. I'm going to leave it there for now though since the temps were only in the high 50's, I want to leave some room for summer temps. They're going to be there accuracy wise as well. I'll still play with seating depths a bit more, etc, but they're doing pretty well already with little load development. Here are the groups at 100 yds: It should be noted those were shot with only a 10X scope which was removed and reinstalled for each group (testing the return to zero of new rings).