Midweight 7's in a SA Savage

JakeC

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Using the common inputs plus the atmosphere I'd hunt the 168 ABLR @2800 is better than 2000fps/1500ftlbs/1 Mil of drift at 700 yards at the low elevations, 825 on the high end. I think that's plenty. More than enough by a bunch of yards.
 

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Using the common inputs plus the atmosphere I'd hunt the 168 ABLR @2800 is better than 2000fps/1500ftlbs/1 Mil of drift at 700 yards at the low elevations, 825 on the high end. I think that's plenty. More than enough by a bunch of yards.
That has been my thinking too. I'm running a 25" barrel, but that is still easy to handle in the woods and the rifle carries well. If I need more gun than what I have I probably need to step up to a 338. It can handle shooting farther than I would most likely care to shoot.
 

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That has been my thinking too. I'm running a 25" barrel, but that is still easy to handle in the woods and the rifle carries well. If I need more gun than what I have I probably need to step up to a 338. It can handle shooting farther than I would most likely care to shoot.
Right. By the internet industry standard of keyboard elk shooting that's still making a full, legs-up, dead junebug out of a bull way past my ability to make a shot in the wind.
 

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I'm pretty alright with .4" in the powder space, you're still getting as good as I'm after. Based on eyeballing their shapes the jump tolerance makes sense. I'm also glad to hear about the 4831sc. that I can always find, 2020 aside. That's usually the last slow-mid powder on the shelf and its treated me really well. I need to study the saami chamber again and see what that looks like. Overall you've swung the pendulum of indecision back to the .284, I thought what you're saying was theoretically possible but I hadn't heard of it. It seems like everyone fixates on what it COULD be and writes it off but in a 3" mag it's exactly where I want to be. If I want more spank than 168g/bc .616/ SD .3 @ 2800 then I'm going .30 cal, no second thought.
Peterson is making very good hard brass now
 

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A few of the posters said they thought a long action would be an interesting choice for the 284 Win with the longer heavier bullets. I had always wondered about that too. A friend was thinning his collection and I acquired his LA Rem chambered in 284 with a longer throat. Barrel is a #5 SS Lilja, fluted, 1 in 7 twist 28.5" long in a synthetic stock with a bedding block. (there is a story with this barrel that doesn't need to be addressed now. I will say it was once a 30" 7mm STW in its first life) The 180 Berger hybrid heel/bearing surface junction is a bit above the case's shoulder/neck junction when seated .010" into the lands. Just began working up some loads, using H4831 and RL-17. Fed 210 match with neck turned 284 win brass. Loaded ammo has a .310" neck . This reamer has a .3165" neck. At least I able to use the same K and N turner setup and bushings for both 284s.

So far I am hovering just under an inch for five shots with both powders. Best so far is 54 gr of H4831 for 2830 fps and 52 gr of RL-17 for 2890 fps. Finally able to get to the range again today and will try seating depth increments with the RL-17 load to see if I can tighten up the group size.

I think this 1 in 7 twist barrel might do well with 195s but in the deal I got a dozen boxes of 180 gr Bergers and am not interested in spending any more money on components right now.
 

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If you are working in a short action either the 7x6.5Prc or 7 saum is better. But you need to run a 3 inch wyatts box in them too. I might get a lot of hate here but the 284 to really go needs a long action and the correct throat to run.
I have been exploring the 7-6.5 PRC idea.
if set up properly will be no longer than the 7-08 with 160 class or lighter bullets but with the punch of a long action 284
case capacity with gunwerks brass necked up 69.4
Lapua 6.5-284 necked up 68.5
for dies using 6.5 PRC bushing die with bushing change and 7SAUM seater nothing special all off the shelf
 

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