Looking for a new hunting bullet... Which one!??!

Montucky Roamer

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The 30s on deer are a whole different Animal. Heavies in 30 aren't the way. There just isn't enough resistance to a Deer. Your HEAVY( extremely light) 140 gr work for a reason.....they are matched to the size of game!
215 berger absolutely works on deer at all ranges. Love it. Only reason I'd try a 124 hammer at warp speed is for fun and longer point and shoot range. MPBR I guess..
 

Teri Anne

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I’m not blaming the bullet you didn’t read it very well. I am not getting the performance out of 190 grain bullet even when I’m killing animals with perfect shots.
You don't mention what caliber you are shootig. 190 gr bullets are those that one might consider for large elk, moose, bison or bear of any size or ilk. If you are using them on deer and thinking that the deer should drop on contact think again. 190s might not expand on deer size animals since there is not enough skin and bone to start expansion. Do not ever use bullets that are that heavy unless the game requires it. If you do you will always be disappointed in bullet performance.
 

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Not saying it couldn't have been better ,but a harder bullet in that same spot, is often not explosive enough...and zips thru with less trauma. But if your not hunting long range, I'd suggest a standard partion or accubond or a light 124 hammer at warp speed.
I'm working on loading the 124 at 3700 in my 300 prc for closer 500 and in type hunting. They absolutely crushed water buffalo in a bunch of testing I guess. The faster the better with that set up. I need to get em in the field and test em. I'll keep my 215 berger and 225 eld loads for long range tho. Hit the ribs and it's lights out.
I shoot regularly at 500-1000 yards. I’m an “middle ager” and that used to be long range back in the day.
I personally do not shoot at animals over 400 yards.
I came to the realization of exactly what you said. Not the best bullet for the job.
My bigger problem is that the 168’s did not perform well on deer in my 308’s either.
Either way I am going away from the ABLR’s anyway.
Someone was interested in the bullets and asked me to PM them. I’m going to need to figure out how first. 😁
 

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So I have a 300 WSM I love but last few animals I have shot I am not seeing the results I want on animals and I actually lost a buck in Colorado this weekend. So I am looking to try and switch things up. Currently shooting the 190 ABLR. Recently scored some 200 grain ELDX before this all happened just to try them out. I just hear good and bad about every kind of bullet so looking for some insight. A buddy of mine says for smaller game like deer or antelope I need a softer bullet or possibly the speed of the gun and bullets are too much. I forgot to add... Seams like the closer the shot the less I see great results but the further shots seam to do better. 200 yards and in are not great but 300 out seam much better and my AR10 stones most things so I am trying to figure out how to solve the situation. Thoughts??
I would go with the tipped tsx. They work down to 1600 fps velocity . Good wound channel , good penetration. My $.02
 

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You don't mention what caliber you are shootig. 190 gr bullets are those that one might consider for large elk, moose, bison or bear of any size or ilk. If you are using them on deer and thinking that the deer should drop on contact think again. 190s might not expand on deer size animals since there is not enough skin and bone to start expansion. Do not ever use bullets that are that heavy unless the game requires it. If you do you will always be disappointed in bullet performance.
He states he’s shooting a 300 WSM!
 

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I’ve put 1000s of Berger 215s through multiple 300rums around the 2900fps mark. Although the MV is a little slow for a RUM it should be very comparable to the MV you would achieve with your WsM. I’ve personally used this bullet to take many bull elk, cow elk, mule deer and antelope. These animals were all ranging from 260-759 yards, one mule deer buck at just over 100yds. I’ve also taken many elk/deer using 30cal 180gr partitions and 212 eld-x. Bottom line in my particular experience has been the Berger 215s produce great terminal results when placed where they need to go, they have a great BC (.691G1) helping with extended range and they have been liked by every rifle I’ve run them in. The eld-x doesn’t seem to produce the same constant accuracy IME but it has provided good terminal performance at the 300-400 range. Partitions provided great terminal performance at closer ranges but it doesn’t have the extended range performance due to the lower BC. (.474G1)
 
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190 gr bullets are those that one might consider for large elk, moose, bison or bear of any size or ilk. If you are using them on deer and thinking that the deer should drop on contact think again. 190s might not expand on deer size animals since there is not enough skin and bone to start expansion. Do not ever use bullets that are that heavy unless the game requires it. If you do you will always be disappointed in bullet performance.
I respectfully disagree with your generalization. I harvested many antelope and with 215 Berger out of my .300 WSM without disappointment.

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Western4444

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Lots of options, most important is bullet placement. For deer 500 yards or less, I like the 165 Sierra Game King HPBT. It is very accurate, and is consistent out to that yardage. Five years in a row, my son had one shot kill on all of his bucks. We just got back from our Wisconsin hunt. My buck dropped immediately, neck shot. My sons buck ran 5 yards and dropped with a heart shot. I like its crossed tip, it opens constantly at all yardages. In discussing with Sierra, they told me they developed this bullet specifically for the 300 Win Mag.
 
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