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<blockquote data-quote="Hand Skills" data-source="post: 1356653" data-attributes="member: 103303"><p>Greetings,</p><p></p><p>I have been a long-time lurker in the world of shooter forums, but have never felt the desire to involve myself directly in the shenanigans.</p><p></p><p>Over time, I have come to respect many of the contributors here in LRH. I appreciate the values shared here, and the culture which members have created.</p><p></p><p>I was lucky enough to grow up with a hunting family in western Alberta (foothills), and have inherited a practical approach to this way of life (shooting/hunting). I heard stories of bullet failures from generations before me and was taught to hand load nosler partitions and to practice off-hand. My 'hunting rifle' is an old 700 30-06 with a Zeiss diatal 4x32. Timney trigger, mpi stock. I feel nothing but confidence in that rifle, and together we have never missed. A lot has changed in the last 20yrs, but the fundamentals have not, nor has that rifle.</p><p></p><p>A couple years ago I moved to southern Saskatchewan. Wide open country. I picked myself up a tikka t3 .223 and put a vx3 2.5-8 on the receiver. It rides around in the truck with me (coyotes beware). On windy days I might toss in a BLR .308 instead, with a twin optic atop.</p><p></p><p>...But I find myself thinking about trajectory more than I once did...</p><p></p><p>I would like to start reaching out a bit more. Utilizing to advantage some of the vast space around me. To date, I've limited shots on furry targets to 300yds, and paper/steel to 500. my goal is to double that.</p><p></p><p>I would really value some input on Reticle Choice - what are the choices of experienced LR hunters, and why?</p><p></p><p>I understand the compromises of thick vs thin, ffp vs sfp. I have a good brain for numbers, mils/moa's don't phase me (provided they are not mixed!) the Internet has led me to believe most shooters like to dial elevation and hold wind. Is this true for you?</p><p></p><p>I suppose after this verbose introduction, the basic question is really simple. BDC or TMR?</p><p></p><p>My 'feeling' is the BDC gives up precision for speed - generally when I spot a target, the distance is unknown. I can eyeball the difference between 250 and 300 yards pretty reliably, but 450 vs 500? Not a chance. If I'm going to consider poking out there my first 'shot' will be with a rangefinder. I really dislike SFP BDC. That's one thing I really appreciate about a fixed power scope, the sub-tensions never change!</p><p></p><p>I have long dreamt of a FFP TMR, but it seems to be of questionable use on low power, illumination is recommended. In my gut, I suppose I am leaning this way.</p><p></p><p>I know most people say this is personal preference, but I'm in the middle of nowhere, lacking the means to compare a lot of what is out there, heck, I don't even KNOW all of what is available.</p><p></p><p>What do you look for in a practical reticle and why? Any recommendations to get me started? Ideally the reticle in question would attach to medium mounts, to test the waters;</p><p></p><p>3-5x on the low end</p><p>14-20x on the top</p><p>42-46mm objective</p><p>~1.5lbs</p><p></p><p>Not too many compact FFP's out there, and expensive they seem. As much as I prefer to 'buy once cry once', I accept that this is new territory for me. I'm not so much concerned with getting it 'wrong' as finding a tool that I can learn and grow with. If a 50mm can and a new stock/cheek piece is the best way to get there, Please let me know!</p><p></p><p>Thank you for reading my story,</p><p></p><p>-stephan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hand Skills, post: 1356653, member: 103303"] Greetings, I have been a long-time lurker in the world of shooter forums, but have never felt the desire to involve myself directly in the shenanigans. Over time, I have come to respect many of the contributors here in LRH. I appreciate the values shared here, and the culture which members have created. I was lucky enough to grow up with a hunting family in western Alberta (foothills), and have inherited a practical approach to this way of life (shooting/hunting). I heard stories of bullet failures from generations before me and was taught to hand load nosler partitions and to practice off-hand. My 'hunting rifle' is an old 700 30-06 with a Zeiss diatal 4x32. Timney trigger, mpi stock. I feel nothing but confidence in that rifle, and together we have never missed. A lot has changed in the last 20yrs, but the fundamentals have not, nor has that rifle. A couple years ago I moved to southern Saskatchewan. Wide open country. I picked myself up a tikka t3 .223 and put a vx3 2.5-8 on the receiver. It rides around in the truck with me (coyotes beware). On windy days I might toss in a BLR .308 instead, with a twin optic atop. ...But I find myself thinking about trajectory more than I once did... I would like to start reaching out a bit more. Utilizing to advantage some of the vast space around me. To date, I've limited shots on furry targets to 300yds, and paper/steel to 500. my goal is to double that. I would really value some input on Reticle Choice - what are the choices of experienced LR hunters, and why? I understand the compromises of thick vs thin, ffp vs sfp. I have a good brain for numbers, mils/moa's don't phase me (provided they are not mixed!) the Internet has led me to believe most shooters like to dial elevation and hold wind. Is this true for you? I suppose after this verbose introduction, the basic question is really simple. BDC or TMR? My 'feeling' is the BDC gives up precision for speed - generally when I spot a target, the distance is unknown. I can eyeball the difference between 250 and 300 yards pretty reliably, but 450 vs 500? Not a chance. If I'm going to consider poking out there my first 'shot' will be with a rangefinder. I really dislike SFP BDC. That's one thing I really appreciate about a fixed power scope, the sub-tensions never change! I have long dreamt of a FFP TMR, but it seems to be of questionable use on low power, illumination is recommended. In my gut, I suppose I am leaning this way. I know most people say this is personal preference, but I'm in the middle of nowhere, lacking the means to compare a lot of what is out there, heck, I don't even KNOW all of what is available. What do you look for in a practical reticle and why? Any recommendations to get me started? Ideally the reticle in question would attach to medium mounts, to test the waters; 3-5x on the low end 14-20x on the top 42-46mm objective ~1.5lbs Not too many compact FFP's out there, and expensive they seem. As much as I prefer to 'buy once cry once', I accept that this is new territory for me. I'm not so much concerned with getting it 'wrong' as finding a tool that I can learn and grow with. If a 50mm can and a new stock/cheek piece is the best way to get there, Please let me know! Thank you for reading my story, -stephan [/QUOTE]
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