Could use some help from those who have more experience in these ladder tests than I have. This morning I shot 2 ladders. The first (left side of notebook sheet below) were 165 grain Gamekings using Varget. 17 shots starting with 43.0 grains spaced .2 grains apart up to 46.2 grains. The second (right side of notebook sheet below) were 180 grain Gamekings using Varget. 13 shots starting with 43.0 grains spaced .2 grains apart up to 45.4 grains. Wind was calm up until the 6th shot on the second ladder, then it started to get breezy, but I was selective in shooting while calmest. Shots were 4 to 8 minutes apart to allow barrel cooling. Shot 2 factory fowlers before first ladder. Temp about 70 and sunny. About 1,100 feet above sea level. The pinkish squares are 1 inch. Savage .308 22" barrel 1:10 twist shooting off lead sled. .02" off lands. This is my notebook with the loads and chrony numbers. This is the 165 grain ladder: This is the 180 grain ladder: What would you be looking to do next? I imagine I want to load up a few 3 shot groups and see what they look like, but what grains?